4/25/07 Division A Top 25 poll is out!
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I'm totally confused how Noma is ranked higher than UMD when Sonoma lost their 3 games by a total of 15 goals with one at home while UMD lost their games ALL on the road, in Utah by a total of 3 goals. As much as I love sonoma, they deserve a #12 or lower ranking for their cupcake schedule. If they win WCLL this weekend then I stand corrected, but it seems like Noma is getting way too much love in the polls. 

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boiler room #4 wrote:I'm totally confused how Noma is ranked higher than UMD when Sonoma lost their 3 games by a total of 15 goals with one at home while UMD lost their games ALL on the road, in Utah by a total of 3 goals. As much as I love sonoma, they deserve a #12 or lower ranking for their cupcake schedule. If they win WCLL this weekend then I stand corrected, but it seems like Noma is getting way too much love in the polls.
I think you're also creating quite a statement that UMD is also ranked too high. Both teams lost to CSU and BYU, and most would agree that Oregon is much better than Utah... I think the voters probably took the 3 game sweep of both of these teams into account when voted in the polls earlier in the season.
I honestly believe that both teams are ranked too high; however, there's only one way to find out. Let's let the WCLL tourney play out since Sonoma gets another shot at a Top 10 team (Arizona) and with a win can show they deserve their current ranking and probably get a crack at the Gauchos if they take care of business like they should.
As for UMD, I guess we're going to have to wait until Dallas for them to really prove themselves becuase their conference is so weak. You have to play the schedule that is given to you (In-Conference) and I commend UMD for making a tough trip to Utah. I still think they need to win a game agasint one of those top teams to be considered among the top 8 teams in the MCLA.
Michigan is relying on their reputation for their ranking at this point in the season. A season without a signature win for the Blue doesn't come along very often. We'll see what they can do in their conference tourney and see if they can change their recent fortunes at Nationals.
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I don't have the last poll but has anyone taken the time to do point total comparrisons between the last two polls? If you take into consideration the point difference between two teams in the last poll and the ranks in this poll it's possible that Michigan may not have dropped in the ranks but could have lost a bunch of points.
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it used to be you could see the old poll on the link. why aren't we able to now?
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x1dschm wrote:has anyone taken the time to do point total comparrisons between the last two polls?
Team – Points this poll – Current Rank – Points last poll
Brigham Young – 1000 – 1 - 999
Colorado State – 958 – 2 - 946
Oregon – 922 – 3 - 907
Michigan – 834 -4 - 829
Colorado – 803 – 5 - 819
Sonoma State – 779 – 6 - 701
Minnesota – Duluth – 757 – 7 - 696
Arizona – 727 – 8 - 609
California Santa Barbara – 666 – 9 - 673
Arizona State – 629 - 10 - 832
Northeastern – 594 – 11 - 677
Georgia – 549 – 12 - 328
Lindenwood – 494 – 13 - 420
Florida – 464 – 14 - 325
Boston College – 450 – 15 - 244
Texas A&M – 422 – 16 - 372
Florida State – 293 – 17 - 615
Utah – 285 – 18 - 481
Virginia Tech – 265 – 19 - 309
Cal Poly SLO – 245 – 20 - 383
Georgia Tech – 230 – 21 - 116
Michigan State – 221 – 22 - 283
Simon Fraser – 167 – 23 - 158
Illinois – 88 – 24 - 63
Claremont College – 54 – 25 – 89
Link to last poll
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Thought i would share somthing from another thread that pollsters may not be aware is available. Check this out.
http://www.collegelax.us/team_stats.php
I believe it is still in development, but it gives updated team stats.
http://www.collegelax.us/team_stats.php
I believe it is still in development, but it gives updated team stats.
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pokecheck wrote:Thought i would share somthing from another thread that pollsters may not be aware is available. Check this out.
http://www.collegelax.us/team_stats.php
I believe it is still in development, but it gives updated team stats.
A very handy tool. It would be really tough to do automatically, and a pain to do manually, but it would nice to see a strength of schedule report next to the teams to get a better idea of the quality of the numbers.
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scooter wrote:question...does NU make the tourny along with BC? they seem to be right on that bubble...
just wondering what others think
I think they are in. No one has made any moves to jump above them, even with the BC loss (again by 1!). Unless Utah upsets BYU, or Michigan is upset in their tournament, the field is set. It is just the order that needs to be determined!
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OAKS wrote:pokecheck wrote:Thought i would share somthing from another thread that pollsters may not be aware is available. Check this out.
http://www.collegelax.us/team_stats.php
I believe it is still in development, but it gives updated team stats.
A very handy tool. It would be really tough to do automatically, and a pain to do manually, but it would nice to see a strength of schedule report next to the teams to get a better idea of the quality of the numbers.
Totally serious question: how do you propose calculating a strength of schedule? I need some sort of metrics to use.
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Ok, strength of schedule isn't a trivial total to calculate...
Currently I'm doing the sum of the goal differential of all your opponents, but that doesn't seem quite right.
Currently I'm doing the sum of the goal differential of all your opponents, but that doesn't seem quite right.
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It should be a combination of ranking, record, and goal differential i think to get an accuracte picture of strenght of schedule. Am I missing anything else?
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univduke21 wrote:It should be a combination of ranking, record, and goal differential i think to get an accuracte picture of strenght of schedule. Am I missing anything else?
Goal Differential is tough if you don't have a cap at like 10 or something because a lot of teams pull their starters and all that stuff.
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mholtz wrote:Totally serious question: how do you propose calculating a strength of schedule? I need some sort of metrics to use.
Was thinking it would be easiest to just pull it from LaxPower. No SOS is gonna be perfect, and why reinvent the wheel.
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