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Seedings

Postby Ken Lovic on Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:41 pm

Read the post i put on this in the FSU/UF thread
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Postby vote4pedro! on Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:35 pm

Danny UGA beat VT 12-11 earlier this year I believe thats the reasoning for the seeding.
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Postby gibertjs on Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:59 pm

What if Elon, SCAD, Furman and UNC Charlotte all end up 4-1? Who has the tiebreaker between Elon and SCAD if they are the only 4-1 teams?
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Postby Danny Hogan on Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:07 pm

vote4pedro! wrote:Danny UGA beat VT 12-11 earlier this year I believe thats the reasoning for the seeding.


someone else had VA Tech's qualifying record as 5-0 , i infered that UGA was also undefeated in qualifying games.

Ken i can't find your post.

Edit, i found it...Did the SELC do away with cross-divisional conference qualifying games when it went to the 3 division format?
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Postby vote4pedro! on Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:40 pm

the cross dvisional games were used until this season with the edition of Miami I believe because it created 6 teams in the north and only 5 in the other 2 divisions which made it unbalanced for that format.
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Postby mparsa on Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:52 pm

Will the final tournament schedule be posted to the forum or will the SELC have it up on their website soon? I understand USC must beat Wake Forest to gain the 6 seed right now, otherwise clemson is in. Thats the only seed that is yet to be set, right?
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Postby Sonny on Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:09 pm

mparsa wrote:Will the final tournament schedule be posted to the forum or will the SELC have it up on their website soon? I understand USC must beat Wake Forest to gain the 6 seed right now, otherwise clemson is in. Thats the only seed that is yet to be set, right?


SELC will have it up on the web site soon. USC beats Wake, the Gamecocks are in the tourney as the Div A 6th seed. If USC falls to Wake, Clemson goes in as the No. 6 seed.

Either USC or Clemson will play Florida (3 seed) in the Quarters on Friday night.
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Postby nine on Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:07 pm

i understand it's all set, nothing can change, and it was outlined during the pre-season, but its just unbelievable to me that the only 2 teams in the SELC with 1 conference loss, are the 3 and 4 seed, and the 1 and 2 seed have 2 losses. makes no sense at all.
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Postby Danny Hogan on Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:30 pm

i think it has to do with solely divisional games counting only towards playoff qualification
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Postby Jolly Roger on Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:31 pm

It just means divisional record carries more weight than conference record. :shock:
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rightfully so

Postby Ken Lovic on Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:36 am

That is to protect easy schedules from effecting play off seedings. When it comes to comparing the 3 top seeds and all are undefeated how do you suggest we solve it other than what we have?

UF beat UGA, UGA beat VT and VT beat UF..... hhhhmmm seems hard to me to make a fair way of doing this other than the system we have.
It is also nothing new for a team to run the table with 3 wins to take the title.

By the way- divisional games are conference games.
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Postby mcummings on Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:26 pm

B Division Breakdown:

To answer giberjs' question- -

Left to Play:
Furman (3-1) vs. UNC-Charlotte (4-0)
*Scheduled for Wednesday, April 18th

UNC-Charlotte's Scenarios:
*UNC-Charlotte can finish 5-0 by defeating Furman, tying with Emory
NOTE: Tiebreaker would go to Emory or UNC-Charlotte
*UNC-Charlotte can finish 4-1 by losing to Furman, tying with SCAD and Elon
NOTE: UNC-Charlotte/SCAD Tiebreaker would go to UNC-Charlotte

Furman's Scenarios:
*Furman can finish 4-1 by defeating UNC-Charlotte, tying them with SCAD and Elon
*Furman can finish 3-2 by losing to UNC-Charlotte, tying with Eckerd

Final 6 Teams- - (in alphabetical order):
Eckerd (3-2)
Elon (4-1)
Emory (5-0)
Furman (4-1 or 3-2 following the UNC-Charlotte game)
SCAD (4-1)
UNC-Charlotte (5-0 or 4-1 following the Furman game)

4-1 teams:
*SCAD beat Elon, tiebreaker goes to SCAD
*UNCC (if loses to Furman) beat SCAD, tiebreaker goes to UNCC
*Furman (if loses to UNCC) lost to Elon, tiebreaker goes to Elon
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Re: rightfully so

Postby Danny Hogan on Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:53 pm

some would argue that easier divisions effect who makes the playoffs altogether, not me though.
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Postby gibertjs on Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:07 pm

So the Davidson/Furman game was called at the half and won't be rescheduled I take it?
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Re: rightfully so

Postby nine on Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:00 pm

Ken Lovic wrote:That is to protect easy schedules from effecting play off seedings. When it comes to comparing the 3 top seeds and all are undefeated how do you suggest we solve it other than what we have?


thats when goals against would be a fair tiebreaker.

but, it is what it is. should turn out for an intense tourney. wish i could be there.
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