BCS gets cleaned up a little

[Timbalaned]

Okay then... who wins in the Rose Bowl? USC or Texas?

Texas, you can't stop the V-Train. Vince is the MAN!

[benji]

Texas all the way.

USC has yet to play a real team (except for what I still consider a loss to Notre Dame), much less in a real conference. In my opinion USC should should be sitting at #3 with Texas at #1 and one-loss Miami at #2. I just don't think USC is that good. Don't get me wrong, great ball team, but not #1.

Back to the point, I doubt there's much if anything that could stop this year's Texas team while running on all cylinders. They hurt you in every angle of the game, especially if they get off to a good start.

[cjwilhelmi]

Wow Benji, I'm a huge Texas fan and all but i still think that it should be UT and USC in some sort of order at 1 and 2. USC's offense is lethal and is probably the best in the nation with Texas being the second or third best. Texas' defense is definetly better than the Trojan D. To beat USC you have to score 40 points, something Texas can surely do.

[umdulax1]

Keep USC's offense off the field and Texas wins... Plain and simple. The team in that game that plays the most offense will win. But in the past two seasons has anyone been able to do that??? Can Texas??? If anyone has the team and defense to do it I would say yes, but thats just MHO... I guess we'll have to wait to see in January.

[JW]

I believe that this championship game will come down to what it will always come down to... Defense... Defense wins championship, and Texas has the better of the Two defenses. 21 points to Stanford huh...

Yeah USC has Leinart, Bush, and White.

But as we saw with Vince Young against Michigan (last year's rose bowl, Ohio State, and Oklahoma State, he can take over a game and win it on his own if he would like.

I believe that Texas has the Defense to stop USC. I don't think USC can stop the Texas Rushing attack with Vince Young, Selvin Young, Charles and Romonce Taylor. Any one of these guys is capable of putting up 100 yards on a team, but because of their depth they all contribute effectively.

Remember "The Eyes of Texas are upon you"

P.S. My dream of 4 undefeated teams did not come to fruition, and I am very sad about it. A playoff system in college football took a step back. If USC and Texas stay undefeated chalk up a W for the BCS. Dang it.

[benji]

As far as how and why the system works the way it does, I admit it is difficult to give a plausible argument as to why USC shouldn't be at #1. However, if I were a voter (which clearly I'm not ) I would be somewhat hesitant to jump out and proclaim them #1 Kings of football. Maybe I'm just bitter because of how the press throws rose petals on the ground that they walk on (no pun).

I guess as we have all said, it'll just have to wait until January. Who knows, I might just be shamefully eating my words in a couple months... but when has that ever happened?

[DanGenck]

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[Beta]

Im not impressed by Texas as a team. Their only semi-decent opponent was Ohio State...whom they edged by 3. (Ironic that the OSU pocket-passer tried to run....then the running-qb stood in the pocket, watched the defender close in, and took a safety in closing minutes...ugh...makes my head hurt). Since then, Texas has indeed beaten remarkable teams, such as Baylor, Missouri, Rice...ya know...all the usual BCS juggernauts. USC, at least "beat" a solid ND team. Im can guarantee that SoCal will figure out a way to stop VY...USC wins by 7 over a one-man Texas team.

[lil lady lax fan]

For the record both Michigan and Ohio State were holding their own throughout their respective games against Texas. In fact Vince Young wasn't the one who scored the final points in the Rose Bowl last year. Michigan's D was holding it out 'til the very end. It was a halfhazard field goal kicked in the final two seconds that won them the game. Ohio State had them until the final two minutes.

I think they're going to have a tougher time of it against USC than they can imagine. My vote goes to USC.

[Brent Burns]

Would Mack Brown imitate Charles Weis this week to be in a very surly mood among his players as the Longhorns will be prepping against their arch-rival Texas A&M? Not!

[JW]

Im not impressed by Texas as a team. Their only semi-decent opponent was Ohio State...whom they edged by 3. (Ironic that the OSU pocket-passer tried to run....then the running-qb stood in the pocket, watched the defender close in, and took a safety in closing minutes...ugh...makes my head hurt). Since then, Texas has indeed beaten remarkable teams, such as Baylor, Missouri, Rice...ya know...all the usual BCS juggernauts. USC, at least "beat" a solid ND team. Im can guarantee that SoCal will figure out a way to stop VY...USC wins by 7 over a one-man Texas team.

USC won the game, but they by no means should have won the game. Texas Schedule was not great, but the Pac 10 is probably the most overrated conference in Football (besides maybe the Big East). USC and Texas' Schedules are pretty equivalent. USC isn't playing a conference championship game, so one less quality opponent. USC did win against ND, and Texas won against Ohio State (pretty equivalent wins). The rest of their schedules are pretty much the same. Texas Tech was ranked 7 when they beat them, and UCLA is highly ranked. And as far as the "BCS juggernauts" of the Big 12 compared to that of the PAC-10 (Stanford, Washington, Cal, Oregon State, Arizona State). The conferences are pretty equal. Which is not great. If I had to rank the conferences this is how I would do it.

1. SEC
2. ACC
3. Big 10
t4. Big 12
t4. USC

I don't know about the Rest, but this is how the major conferences go. I don't even think that the Big East is a major conference anymore after Miami, Va Tech, and BC left.

Needless to say USC and Texas are pretty equal.

However, I still don't think that these are clearly the best two teams in the country. Miami and LSU would give both teams a pretty good game.

Playoff, Playoff, Playoff.

[Kyle Berggren]

Now I'll eat my words after watching the championship game, but no one ate their last season when USC rolled through the season, dominating the championship game. If they do it again, we've all been whitnessing the building of a great dynasty, and doubted it every season. I am not a Trojans fan, I like the 2 worst teams in the PAC-10, win or lose (mainly lose, we like to Coug it). I doubted USC last season, thinking the best db's in the country could slow down the best O in the game, and I was wrong, big time. I hope everyone here saying USC and the PAC-10 are over-rated will come back to the forum and say, "I'm not very good at handicapping teams or their respective weak conference. USC was by far the best team this season, I will no longer second guess an undefeated number 1." I might no someone that had to say something similar last season....

[Bluevelvet]

An interesting article from today's SF Chronicle. A list of "oops awards" from this college football season.
1. USC would have tougher schedule than Texas.
2. Penn St would be poised to win Big 10.
3. Oklahoma up and down and up again.
4. Fresno St as top 20 team.
Nebraska, Texas A&M, Purdue etc, etc, etc.. Check it out. It's an interesting article.

What seemed true in September sometimes seems ridiculous in November, so we present our Oops Awards:

-- Texas' schedule, with games against teams ranked sixth and seventh in the preseason, plus two other games against top-25 teams, made the Longhorns' road to the Rose Bowl look more difficult than that of USC, which faced no opponents ranked among the preseason's top 18. Oops. Texas has just one win over a team currently ranked among the top 20 with no more ranked teams left to play, while USC has two wins over teams currently in the top 10 (Notre Dame and Oregon) and still has to play No. 16 Fresno State and No. 12 UCLA.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2005/11/18/SPGS7FQ14D1.DTL

[Beta]

1. SEC
2. ACC
3. Big 10
t4. Big 12
t4. USC

I def agree with you on that one JW. Though, the Big East isn't really overrated...since they get no credit from anyone And Louisville joining, then losing 2 games doesn't help their credibility. And you are correct also sir, USC shouldn't have beaten ND. In fact they lost that game. But that's a whole new post altogether. I was rippin on Texas' "schedule". Texas Tech had really no right to be ranked that highly (7?), seeing as how they beat FIU (terrible), Sam Houston (1-AA), Indiana St (1-AA), Kansas (they're Kansas), Nebraska, and Kansas State. I honestly dont see why all teams that are stuck behind teams like Texas or USC just dont make schedules like that, go undefeated, and get a BCS Bowl game...oh wait...Utah did that. I bet Urban Meyer and Alex Smith wish that they were still back at Utah. 6 year, $49.5 million dollar contract for Smith...awful...he looked like he had never played football before in his NFL games this year.

[Jay Wisnieski]

With a Miami loss and USC holding on to beat Fresno St. 50-42, what does everyone think now? I still say USC has to be beaten before I'll bet against them in any game.