SELC A Week 11 (4/6-4/12) Discuss, Predict, Report Scores…

[OAKS]

But schools that can't make a commitment to the league? No Thank You!

What exactly do you mean by this? I doubt the league would have been eager to throw an unproven team (commitment-wise) back into the A division when the divisions were set up differently.

[Catlax]

It means that the B Division shouldn't have to be the division that gets the problem teams out of the A Division! It's not a minor league for the A division, it's got a lot of teams that have smaller student populations and a great commitment to the sport of lacrosse.

It means that problem teams should be dealt with and not sent out of sight of the A Division Schools!

[OAKS]

So reading is fundamental... I said the B division used to be for new teams and the such. Now it's for smaller schools, and although some people have the perception that it's a developmental league, that train of thought is quickly diminishing.

[Catlax]

[quote="OAKS]
It used to be for developing teams and teams just entering the conference, so it'll probably take another year or two to get everyone on the same page.

Developing Teams? Okay. New Teams? Certainly. Smaller Schools in the SELC? I'll buy it.

But schools that can't make a commitment to the league? No Thank You!

Reading is fundamental "and the such"(whatever the hell that means), I said the exact same thing two posts ago. In addition, the B Division is still for new and developing teams to the league. So what are you talking about? My original post was to GTlaxcaptain21 who pondered the merits of sending USC to the B Division even though he didn't think it could be done. That was focus of my original comment. So again, what are you talking about?

[OAKS]

Your response was that the "B division is not the scrap heap of the SELC". His post was about placing teams who cannot keep their commitments in a division where they can prove they can keep their commitments, pay league dues, get a coach, etc. which is what the B division used to be. You responded, and I tried to point out that he wasn't calling the B division a scrap heap, that's all. Anyway, the B division is not for new teams anymore, as you suggest, but for smaller schools (teams without a division 1-A football team and teams who feel they would be more competitive with small schools - i suppose you could call them developing if you want). His frustration was that he pays a few hundred dollars to play a sport he loves, and rather than getting to play a game, he gets nothing. It's pretty much sink or swim now for teams in either division though. Anyway, I doubt we're even on the same page here about what one another is trying to point out, so I'm not even gonna keep responding.

[Jpalm]

Were looking into Sunday afternoon in Gainesville for UF/UCF[/quote]

[cartercc]

It’s kind of funny that all your bashing of Vandy Lax stopped as soon as you realized that an “uncommitted” and “NCLL” caliber Vandy Lax team still takes a “big-time” SELC team in Flordia.

If any of you all actually think that Vandy Lax has not come a long way in the past year is incredibly wrong. All I can say though is get ready for next year where our home games will be a plenty.

[Billy White Shoes]

For one glorious afternoon, the battlecry changed from "If you're not a gator, you're gator bait" to "If you're not a gator, you didn't lose".

Recognize.

Oh, and can ONE more person from Southern Alabama or some garbage school like that please talk a little more junk about Vandy? That would be great.

[CyLaxKeeper00]

If any of you all actually think that Vandy Lax has not come a long way in the past year is incredibly wrong. All I can say though is get ready for next year where our home games will be a plenty.

Yes, home games are definitely harder to cancel.

[Ken Lovic]

White shoes and cartercc, you are missing the picture. People were angry at the reason why you all wanted to call off the UCF game. The league has policies in place and you all signed a contract to play a game. Whether the game is mandatory or not is not the issue, you are responsible for playing that game. Other teams that have forfeited have been dealt with by the SELC and the Exec Board has issued penalties to them. We are glad you all fielded a team for the UCF game.

Your brazen attitude that this is "club" and it should not matter was way out of line. Their are numerous board members who dedicate many, many volunteer hours making this league operate. To have people like cartercc throw that back at us is insulting.

The reason the bashers stopped- you played the game. Pretty simple, huh? I also don't recall anyone bashing your play, the bashers were going after your attitude on playing a game, not your on field skills. You may want to do some research into why you all were not in the league last year and where your team stands with the SELC (off the field, not on). NCLL caliber and uncomitted was thrown out there for your organizational attitude, not your field play.

Congrats on the win over UF, it is a big win for your program.

[Danny Hogan]

i'de like to echo ken's sentiments on your situation. Believe it or not, a lot more goes into running this league than you guys just showing up for games. Apparently, when you show up you guys are really good. Perhaps you'll recognize that sometime and see how far your talent can really can take you. In a league like this, you get out of it what you put into it. It can be very rewarding when you fully commit yourself.

[GTlaxCaptain21]

[quote="OAKS]
It used to be for developing teams and teams just entering the conference, so it'll probably take another year or two to get everyone on the same page.

Developing Teams? Okay. New Teams? Certainly. Smaller Schools in the SELC? I'll buy it.

But schools that can't make a commitment to the league? No Thank You!

Reading is fundamental "and the such"(whatever the hell that means), I said the exact same thing two posts ago. In addition, the B Division is still for new and developing teams to the league. So what are you talking about? My original post was to GTlaxcaptain21 who pondered the merits of sending USC to the B Division even though he didn't think it could be done. That was focus of my original comment. So again, what are you talking about?

I apologize if I have offended you in anyway, I am a 5th year senior and for my entire career teams were sent to the B league if they were unable to commit to a full A league schedule, or if they were not good enough to compete in the A league. For example, Georgia was sent down to the B league to help develop their program a few years ago, and now there back stronger than ever. I apologize I have not kept up with the status of the B league, as now I understand the teams are divided by the size of the school and if you have a Division 1-A football team. There are some very quality programs in the B league, and in no way did I mean any disrespect.

With that said it is my understanding that very few players even showed up to the clemson game, and after that made the desicion that their season was going down the toilet, leadership was bad, and players felt they had better things to do than to play in the games that they commited to as a team. This was a very selfish decision as not only USC is affected, but now my fellow seniors, my entire team, and all the standings to place the teams in the tourney are messed up. The SELC is trying to gain respect around the country as a legit league, but actions like this hinder that. Coaches, players, and league officers have invested alot of time into making what the SELC is today, so irresponsible actions like just throwing a season away should come with heavy penalties.

[goalscorrer12]

your a fifth year senior and still playing club lax?

[Ken Lovic]

well he is a grad student taking classes at a local community college but since he likes GT we let him play with us. We also like him for his pimping rides that he has

21 was red shirted last year and did not play, this is his 5th year in school and 4th year on the team.

[Catlax]

LaxCaptain21-There is absolutely no need to apologize! I know exactly how frustrated you are and I completely understand it. My statements were not meant to be critical of you. Rather, I wanted to point out that programs that need to be disciplined should be, but not at the expense of those B Division teams that would be stuck with scheduling a demoted team.

Good luck to you in the playoffs and I hope the no show doesn't spoil you're college lax experience. You've got more important games coming down the road!