Another reason why it is good to have a defibrillator around

[Timbalaned]

Kid was dead, luckily the coaches knew what they were doing and had equipment around. How many teams in the league actually have the means to keep someone alive (CPR trained personnel or defibrillator) if something were to happen? Stuff is scary.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/loca ... 57&ref=rss

[Hi-Line Lax]

I know we're a team that doesn't always have one around, but I wouldn't object at all to making them required for all MCLA teams... maybe get a huge bulk deal, throw the cost into individual team league fees and hand them out at conference meetings?

[Ryan Hanavan]

That's great that the coaches were ready for this situation. I thinks it's a great idea to get CPR certified, especially for practices when trainers aren't usually around. Big ups to those coaches for stepping up!

[OAKS]

Not sure about high school, but the two college club departments I've worked with have required CPR / First Aid / Defib training and had defibrillators in various areas around the rec facilities, if not with the actual team.

[WCLLPREZ]

Santa Clara has had one for the past 4 years, donated by our alumni from proceeds of an alumni game.

Both our officers are certified as are the head coach and one assistant coach. Our trainer is on site every practice and is also trained.

[DRich17]

Does everyone remember in high school football games where there'd be an ambulance on the field the entire game just in case? I wonder what all is involved in setting that up? has anyone heard of any club teams doing it?

I was at a tourney in St Louis in HS when a kid got checked in the throat, he needed an emergency trachiotomy done, luckily there was an ambulance on hand. Its scary stuff though, we've got one or two trainers at all our home games, but sometimes you wonder if they'd be prepared to handle everything

[Hi-Line Lax]

we can usually get ambulances to sit there... you just have to pay them. Also I'd imagine it might be harder in towns with a few more people...

[Ken Lovic]

I require 2 people per club to be certified and at all practices/games with the clubs at Tech.
We also have 3 defribrilator for check out for the clubs when traveling or hosting games.
I am working with the SGA currently to provide more funding for trainers something they dropped 4 years ago!

I suggest everyone work diligently with their rec departments/athletic/student affair offices to provide training and proper equipment in case of an accident.

Be sure to find some sort of medical attention to be at your games. In the SELC is it required to have medical personnel at all hosted games. EMT, trainer- it does not matter. You must have something.

[The_Buddha_Man]

At the end of the day, being a club sport and all, I am sure it would be up to the school to provide it, despite whatever mandate we give, unfortunately. However, with fund raising or one year of increased dues or something, we should make it a point to make this part of our on field crap, right next to the cones, scoreboard, tapes, etc. Maybe we can discuss making it mandatory that at all of the annual conference meetings, there could be a 45 minute session to get CPR certified and Defib trained....

Thoughts?

[DRich17]

Are the refs trained with this stuff?

What about that for a possibility?

[Doug Shanahan]

Pretty crazy story...it seems more and more kids each year have this "rare" heart problem due to impact from a ball. Defibulators should be mandatory, hope that we never have to use it, but if works just once it will pay for itself 10 fold...

[Jolly Roger]

Big discussion a couple of seasons ago in the UMLL board.

http://forums.collegelax.us/viewtopic.php?t=2837&start=0

[Rave]

Being a club sport it is hard enough to get backing from the school and trying to get a trainer to our games is pretty close to impossible. I thought I read something were the training clinics for MN high school refs had CPR certification as apart of the process but do not quote me on that. I know most schools have a defibulators on campus (not sure where ours is) but I think the big question is how accessible is it for athletes/trainers who need it.

Maybe the MCLA could work out some contract with Medtronic or whoever makes them so every team or league could have one if not a few and the refs could be trained and bring them to the games.

[LaxRef]

Are the refs trained with this stuff?

What about that for a possibility?

This is simply not our responsibility. We have enough people who balk at our training requirements now; throw CPR, defib, first aid, and that kind of stuff on there--with the associated liability (you aren't a "good Samaritan" if you're required to do it as part of your job)--and you'll have no one to do your games.

In fact, in terms of liability, officials should not attempt to help injured players in any way unless: (1) The official has proper medical training (2) There is no one else qualified to help (3) There is a serious risk of permanent harm or death if the official does not act.

Besides, we don't want to be doing CPR and having the coaches and players standing around telling us how we're not doing it right!

[PigPen]

Pretty crazy story...it seems more and more kids each year have this "rare" heart problem due to impact from a ball.

probably the fact that more and more kids are playing now and with the internet we now hear all the bad stuff.

Still seems to me that this is just a freak bad timing kind of thing-sort of like bit by a shark or hit by lightning.

I remember hearing about a kid playing hockey as a goalie back in the early 90's-takes a h.s. slap shot in the chest (with a chest protector and all the proper equipment) and it still killed him, probably commo Cordis-but the vast majority of us didn't know what it was then.