Top 25 D2 results for Poll #1

[nhoskins]

President's Day Morning in Kennesaw, GA:
St. Thomas 7, Kennesaw State 3
Game called at halftime, due to poor field conditions.

Was that an official's decision? Or does it have to be agreed upon by both coaches?

[Sonny]

President's Day Morning in Kennesaw, GA:
St. Thomas 7, Kennesaw State 3
Game called at halftime, due to poor field conditions.

Was that an official's decision? Or does it have to be agreed upon by both coaches?

In this case, both coaches agreed to it.

[scooter]

Well after a weekend full of D2 games, any predictions of movement in the poll on Wednesday?

I would have to think Charlotte moves up, given the circumstances of their loss to UST. I would also not be surprised if UST dropped a spot or two. But I really hope that may teams not starting until later in the season don't get penalized in the voting simply for being idle

[horn17]

In my mind Charlotte is definately moving up the ladder, but I dont drop UST because of a close game...


From what I understand, Charlotte has probaly one of the country's best players in either division playing attack for them, and actually might be a top ten team....

[Gvlax]

Well after a weekend full of D2 games, any predictions of movement in the poll on Wednesday?

I would have to think Charlotte moves up, given the circumstances of their loss to UST. I would also not be surprised if UST dropped a spot or two. But I really hope that may teams not starting until later in the season don't get penalized in the voting simply for being idle

Well i wouldn't penalize UST too much because they still won overall. Charlotte will probably move up. I don't think UST can fall farther than 4 unless Emory also moves because they beat Emory.

As for the idle teams, this is one reason that preseason polls are looking less favorably in my eyes. Some teams choose, for what ever reason, to start late and should they be penalized because of that? I know for my team it comes down to when the snow will be off the field because we do not have access to a dome (our indoor practice football field will be open next year though).

[Steno]

I could see western wash. moving down quite a bit after a loss to western oregon, who then lost to unranked central washington. pncll is mixing it up huge this year with no clear team to beat.

[Pinball]

Does SJU's loss to D1 San Diego (12-9) have any influence in the poll? Will it drop them?

[horn17]

I say no....I dont think that that loss to a D1 team - that was a close match up shouldnt drop them

[Cameron pederson]

Are there any teams that are outside of the top 25 that you see moving into the rankings? I would have to say that UWEC would have to be one of them.

[Gvlax]

I say no....I dont think that that loss to a D1 team - that was a close match up shouldnt drop them

But what if a team beats a D1 team. That has to help them correct?

[Gvlax]

Are there any teams that are outside of the top 25 that you see moving into the rankings? I would have to say that UWEC would have to be one of them.

Western Washington will fall but not out of it. There are few teams that have had a loss that is worthy of them dropping out but maybe Pepperdine. So if anyteam was to join the top 25 they would get the 25th spot in my eyes. All teams losses have seemed to come to D1 teams.

SCAD i believe has had the most losses but none that would put them out of the top 25.

[Jolly Roger]

I say no....I dont think that that loss to a D1 team - that was a close match up shouldnt drop them

But what if a team beats a D1 team. That has to help them correct?

No, because the divisional designations are not based on competitive differences, merely, in our case, the NCAA designation of an institution's football team.

I think the only impact in D1/D2 games is the possibilty of a negative one on the D1 team if they are defeated by a team that is perceived to have less assets from which to draw (student population/facilities/institutional support).

Whether this assessment is fair or not is another topic. I know plenty of D1 schools that have a student population that is very regional with low lacrosse IQ and poor support of non-varsity teams in terms of facilities and finances.

[Gvlax]

I say no....I dont think that that loss to a D1 team - that was a close match up shouldnt drop them

But what if a team beats a D1 team. That has to help them correct?

No, because the divisional designations are not based on competitive differences, merely, in our case, the NCAA designation of an institution's football team.

I think the only impact in D1/D2 games is the possibilty of a negative one on the D1 team if they are defeated by a team that is perceived to have less assets from which to draw (student population/facilities/institutional support).

Whether this assessment is fair or not is another topic. I know plenty of D1 schools that have a student population that is very regional with low lacrosse IQ and poor support of non-varsity teams in terms of facilities and finances.

So in the future when teams will get more competitive, scheduling a D1 team in your schedule might do more harm then good. Instead of scheduling that D1 team you might as well schedule a D2 team.

[USTLAX06]

I would also not be surprised if UST dropped a spot or two.

I'm biased, but how could you drop UST? They are the only MCLA Div II team with a win against a top 5 team, beat a severely underrated UNC-C team and won 3 games on the road. If you take all of those things into account, how could you drop them?

Even if you wanted to, who would you move up? Dayton lacks a quality win at this point in the year (believe me they will come, they just haven't scheduled them yet), Emory lost to UST, UVSC lost - to a very good SJU team, and UNC was idle. I don't see that happening. but who knows - it's early.

[Jolly Roger]

So in the future when teams will get more competitive, scheduling a D1 team in your schedule might do more harm then good. Instead of scheduling that D1 team you might as well schedule a D2 team.

The perceived harm comes to the D1 team. I just don't think the D2 team receives an equivalant benifit. I can assure you this reasoning is on the minds of many D1 coaches. Nothing to gain, everything to lose.