The Jerramy Stevens Tale

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Postby Danny Hogan on Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:01 pm

Beta wrote:It'd be ok though...he has a......a "disease".....[glug glug]


another can of worms in itself, but i agree with you...
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Postby Pinball on Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:10 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGG0zWu_VIs[/youtube]

Maybe raiders lineman Tyler brayton knew a little something about his past and decided to provide a little vigilante justice. I remember reading somewhere that he was a "top 5 hated player in the nfl".
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Postby Timbalaned on Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:37 pm

Pinball wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGG0zWu_VIs[/youtube]

Maybe raiders lineman Tyler brayton knew a little something about his past and decided to provide a little vigilante justice. I remember reading somewhere that he was a "top 5 hated player in the nfl".



knowing what I know now, he deserves a lot worse than that
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Postby Adam G on Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:16 pm

Pinball wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGG0zWu_VIs[/youtube]

Maybe raiders lineman Tyler brayton knew a little something about his past and decided to provide a little vigilante justice. I remember reading somewhere that he was a "top 5 hated player in the nfl".


I'd gladly take that penalty if I were Brayton.
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Postby Zeuslax on Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:51 pm

Then maybe they should just...I dunno...not drink.


This is a whole other discussion, I know. Is it really that easy? A lot of people have a substance abuse problem don't even know they are addicted. It's called Denial......and it ain't a river in Egypt. Especially when you're enabled...which this num-nut was!


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Drinking in situations that are physically dangerous, such as while driving a car or operating machinery
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Postby Jana on Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:01 pm

I know Mark Larson personally and can vouch for his character and honor. I also know Hugh Barber (Seattle Men's Lacrosse) and Angela Kaake (Breakaway Lacrosse) from the prosecutor's office, all 3 are successful prosecutors for King County and all 3 take on murder and sexual assault cases to try to put the bad guys away. I've been to Hugh's office, and it's covered floor to ceiling with photographs of victims from cases he has taken to trial.

All of them could easily go into private practice and make big money, but they are too dedicated to low pay, high stress and seeking justice at the prosecutor's office.

While I don't know the full evidence that was collected, date rape is a tough one to take to trial. I personally can think of at least 5 friends from my UW years who fit into that "grey" area of date rape, where they were so drunk they couldn't resist, but felt so much guilt afterwards for drinking that they refused our encouragement to go to the police, or have a rape kit performed.

As a society we have to ask ourselves how we are training young people to act when they see someone incapacitated. Is a young woman close to passing out "fair game" for sex - especially anal sex? He'd never taken her out on a date, he wasn't even renting a hotel room, he was raping her in the dirt, and moving her to the bushes when someone saw them.

To put the shoe on the other foot, if Jerramy Stevens was stumbling on his front porch and about to pass out, would it be ok for other men who he had been socially friendly with earlier to drag him to a dark spot and have anal sex? I'd say not, but somehow he thought in his own head that it was ok to do it to the victim.

The most damning proof of the pressures of the "Husky Nation" towards anyone who criticizes the football team are the responses in the comments section of the articles. Lots of people saying "this is old news, and it's a conspiracy by the Times to bring it up now that we need a new stadium" - denying the fact that the Times had to make 91 requests to unseal court documents for their reporting in 2008.

Another comment: "she shouldn't have been drinking to begin with"....why not just say she should just lay back and enjoy it????

or "the Seattle Times has always had it in for the Huskies, look at how the articles in 1993 ruined the team"....as if somehow exposing corrupt boosters for paying athletes was a terrible thing.

Gotta love the complaint "there are 100 good men who are doing good things"...with that reasoning, maybe no one should have reported on Ted Bundy, because all the other law students were law abiding.

I bleed purple and gold for my alma mater, but what struck me the most was the University's lack of institutional control to protect the safety of the students. They permitted someone who stomped on another man's jaw to receive a full ride scholarship, and keep the scholarship when his grades dropped, when he was accused of rape charges, when he sideswiped a car and left the scene, and when he crashed into a nursing home.

Can you imagine a Rhodes Scholar, or Marshall Scholar committing that type of criminal behavior and hanging onto the scholarship?

The real reason the Times printed the articles was stated in the very first article, the very same "Husky Nation" apologists wanted Ty Willingham's head served on a platter along with the Athletic Director's because they were not rose bowl bound. The "Husky Nation" kept harkening back to the "good old days" of 2000. So the Times published the articles to remind them of what those times were really like.

I was particularly appalled at the hardball tactics of the UW legal team towards the rape victim, threatening to expose her name in court proceedings, and risk her safety as a student on campus. Kudos to the judge for denying that request.

Enough ranting for 1 day, I have to go prepare the agenda for the NWWLA winter meeting next Saturday night at the Washington Lacrosse Coaching Conference. Hope to see Wish there!
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