Bowing Down to Islam (again)

[sohotrightnow]

Deportation from Sudan. Sounds like a holiday to me.

[swampthing]

The name currently escapes me, (but whatever it's called when there's a robbery in the middle of a busy city and no one stops to do anything about it)....can apply globally too.

Good Samaritan law?

I don't know how to do double quotes, but someone mentioned how everything has always been about oil. If anyone is from/in southern California, have you seen any of the hydrogen cars yet from Honda? It's gonna be tough for those to catch on with the lack of hydrogen stations, but I'm excited to hear they're trying. It's supposed to only release water vapor, but just wait until the rest of the world is as humid as FL, then you'll wish we just stuck to releasing carcinogens that floated away.

[Zeuslax]

Just repeat the quotes like you would on the first one.

This is something we monitor very closely at work.

If anyone is from/in southern California, have you seen any of the hydrogen cars yet from Honda?

They are doing national adds and commercials. Water vapor is the only byproduct.

It's gonna be tough for those to catch on with the lack of hydrogen stations, but I'm excited to hear they're trying.

The same thing was said about natural gas stations and they are doing fine in regions that committed to the technology. It is going to be a very large undertaking though. However, their are many companies working on personal reclamation stations. As you may know, hydrogen is very flammable though.

It's supposed to only release water vapor, but just wait until the rest of the world is as humid as FL, then you'll wish we just stuck to releasing carcinogens that floated away.

Humidity is much easier to handle then the crap that comes out of tailpipes now. I haven't read anything or seen anything related to rising humidity levels if a whole city converted to hydrogen vehicles. In many parts of the tropics and in rainforest regions that have a need for potable water they have taken advantage of the humid environment. By passing humid air over cool coils this allowing the hot humid air to condense. They will then collect the condensate which is very, very pure water. You've seen this with your indoor unit on your AC. It just goes down the drain.

[Steno]

but how do we get the hydrogen? wasn't it the (Bush's) plan to use coal plants to generate the electricity for the electrolysis to get the hydrogen? Seems like a lose-lose to me.

[Zeuslax]

but how do we get the hydrogen?

The big question is how do we distribute it and create a backbone for our economy. Essentially, we need safe ways to distribute and store it.

wasn't it the (Bush's) plan to use coal plants to generate the electricity for the electrolysis to get the hydrogen? Seems like a lose-lose to me.

Bush is very pro coal and so are a lot of other people. It's what we have a ton (no pun intended) of. Wind and solar ouput is in DC and have to be converted to AC. However, with electrolysis you can just take the DC output of a wind turbine lets say and simplify the process.

Here's an article on the topic.

http://www.physorg.com/news87494382.html

There is some other really interesting research going on with algea and different types of bacteria that are producing hydrogen from organic matter. Basically it's a fermentation process with waste water.

We may have to start a new topic.

[Beta]

Well, getting back on topic, about 600-1000 (depending on your news source ) protesters are calling for blood.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/11/30/sudan.bears/index.html

So weird! Never saw this coming! At what point will it be known that if it walks like one, talks like one, acts like one, then most likely...it's a:

About 600 Islamic demonstrators piled out of mosques, chanting: "By soul, by blood, I will fight for the Prophet Mohammed." Some of the protesters demanded the teacher's execution, according to The Associated Press.

Ah, I found what it's called when it comes to people/cultures/countries doing bad things and no one doing anything about it: "diffusion of responsibility".

http://www.t-nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=764948

[sohotrightnow]

Bad Reporter strikes again!

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/asmussen/

[Sonny]

Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and knives, rallied Friday in a central square and demanded the execution of a British teacher convicted of insulting Islam for allowing her students to name a teddy bear "Muhammad."

In response to the demonstration, teacher Gillian Gibbons was moved from the women's prison near Khartoum to a secret location for her safety, her lawyer said.

The protesters streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons, as pickup trucks with loudspeakers blared messages against Gibbons, who was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in prison and deportation. She avoided the more serious punishment of 40 lashes.

They massed in central Martyrs Square outside the presidential palace, where hundreds of riot police were deployed. They did not try to stop the rally, which lasted about an hour."Shame, shame on the U.K.," protesters chanted.

They called for Gibbons' execution, saying, "No tolerance: Execution," and "Kill her, kill her by firing squad."

Over a teddy bear.

Islam - Quite the peaceful religion. (Or should I say cult?)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071130/ap_on_re_af/sudan_british_teacher

[Zeuslax]

(Or should I say cult?)

From dictionary dot com

Cult –noun

1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3. the object of such devotion.
4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5. Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
7. the members of such a religion or sect.
8. any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific.

From the American Heritage Dictionary

1) A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
- The followers of such a religion or sect.
- Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
- The object of such devotion.
2) A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3) The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
4) A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.

5)Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
- The object of such devotion.
6) An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.

[Adam Gamradt]

Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and knives, rallied Friday in a central square and demanded the execution of a British teacher convicted of insulting Islam for allowing her students to name a teddy bear "Muhammad."

In response to the demonstration, teacher Gillian Gibbons was moved from the women's prison near Khartoum to a secret location for her safety, her lawyer said.

The protesters streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons, as pickup trucks with loudspeakers blared messages against Gibbons, who was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in prison and deportation. She avoided the more serious punishment of 40 lashes.

They massed in central Martyrs Square outside the presidential palace, where hundreds of riot police were deployed. They did not try to stop the rally, which lasted about an hour."Shame, shame on the U.K.," protesters chanted.

They called for Gibbons' execution, saying, "No tolerance: Execution," and "Kill her, kill her by firing squad."

Over a teddy bear.

Islam - Quite the peaceful religion. (Or should I say cult?)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071130/ap_on_re_af/sudan_british_teacher

If you think these guys are bad, you should really watch out for them double Muslims.

[Zeuslax]

she's pardoned and freed.......

[Sonny]

she's pardoned and freed.......

And will have to live in hiding for probably the rest of her life due to the peaceful religion of Islam.

[Steno]

Sonny, we get it. You don't like Islam.

[Sonny]

Sonny, we get it. You don't like Islam.

It has nothing to do with liking someone.

It's the reality of the situation.

[Steno]

I didn't say someone. My original post said 'muslims,' but I figured that referred to a person, not an institution. It's like when I say I hate the other frats on campus. I like the people in them as individuals, just not what they represent as a whole.