2007 College Football Schedule for Week No. 10 (11/3/07)

[Danny Hogan]

i think both Oregon and LSU have looked very good this year. Hope michigan comes through with that win over ohio state so we can see them match up in the bcs championship game.

Who knows what impact kansas will have on this situation, the big 12 north is a joke, but if they win the big 12 and go undefeated they will certainly get their shot. Can't argue with that because they will have beaten missouri and oklahoma by season's end.

Oregon's remaining schedule is a cake walk (but has been formidable thus far). I agree that the Michigan win looks better now, but i think their (UM) top 15 ranking is all the credit they deserve. I think ASU is overrated.

LSU's has 2 tough games left. The unpredictable arkansas and the sec championship game against (whoever) the sec east champ.

I would put LSU at 2 and Oregon at 3 because i dont' think Oregon would be 8-1 if they traded schedules with LSU.

[Beta]

[I noticed that you conveniently left out margin of victory for LSU when it did not serve to help your argument.

LSU over Florida by 4 with a late comeback
LSU over Alabama by 7 with a late comeback
LSU over Auburn by 6 with a last second comeback TD

You also failed to mention Oregon's 39-7 POUNDING (to use your terminology) over a much-better-than-people-give-them-credit-for Michigan.

The greatest difference between Oregon and LSU's schedule so far is that in aside from the Cal loss Oregon has left NO DOUBT as to who the better team was that day (USC scored a touchdown with 3 mins in the 4th to get within a TD). In LSU's games that doubt has been there in every game except against a weak Tulane, an overrated VA Tech, and a confused Miss St.

I think that both teams are dead even and the remaining schedules will determine who truly is the better team, I think that based off their current schedules you cannot say one is undoubtedly better than the other.

I think there is a great chance that it will be these two teams meeting in the title game after Michigan blows out OSU.

I also noticed that I conveniently only included scores that were "touchdown or greater" wins...which actually should help Oregon's argument.

They beat Michigan huh? That's a pretty sweet win. A win that's only been shared by I-AA App State.

LSU and Oregon both have one loss...while LSU unarguably has a harder schedule.

[Dan Wishengrad]

LSU unarguably has a harder schedule.

Oh really, Joe? "Unarguably" and not "IMHO" or "I think...". Let's look at the up-to-date computer rankings for SOS:

CBS Sports -- Oregon #2, LSU #9
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119

GBE -- LSU #11, UO #22
http://www.gberatings.com/sos/

Sagarin -- LSU #12, UO #13
http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cfsend.htm

In the Sagarin rankings, the difference between LSU's (75.49) and Oregon's (75.42) Strength of Schedule is statistically meaningless.

So let's see -- One computer ranks Oregon's schedule as tougher, one ranks LSU's as tougher, one ranks them virtually dead-even. Sounds to me like the perfect recipe for making an argument either way.

Oh wait, I forgot -- the old Southern superiority complex hasn't been factored in to these rankings, and when done it removes all doubt. Argument over, I guess.

[Beta]

Oh really, Joe? "Unarguably" and not "IMHO" or "I think...". Let's look at the up-to-date computer rankings for SOS:

CBS Sports -- Oregon #2, LSU #9
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119

GBE -- LSU #11, UO #22
http://www.gberatings.com/sos/

Sagarin -- LSU #12, UO #13
http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cfsend.htm

In the Sagarin rankings, the difference between LSU's (75.49) and Oregon's (75.42) Strength of Schedule is statistically meaningless.

So let's see -- One computer ranks Oregon's schedule as tougher, one ranks LSU's as tougher, one ranks them virtually dead-even. Sounds to me like the perfect recipe for making an argument either way.

Yes. Unarguably. 6 ranked teams for LSU (5-1) and 3 for Oregon (2-1). TWICE AS MANY. Ohh computer rankings...almost everyone here (including me) complains about the BCS yet you pull out the computer rankings..which is...what the BCS...is made out of.

Oh wait, I forgot -- the old Southern superiority complex hasn't been factored in to these rankings, and when done it removes all doubt. Argument over, I guess.

That's a very lovely comment. But since I AM NOT SOUTHERN I will just ignore it.

So for what..the 3rd year now...everyone here in the college football sections say that the number of ranked teams played doesn't matter, and strong conference schedules aren't that important...yet in the other message board topics everyone BLASTS Florida State for not playing enough ranked teams and for a weak in-conference schedule (compared to the WCLL and RMLC). Why aren't all of you defending teams like FSU or BC when it comes time for the MCLA playoffs?

Oh wait I forgot, you're on the west coast or in the RMLC...my bad.

[Dan Wishengrad]

LOL Joe, good counter, and I was expecting it -- although maybe not so quickly. Do you live here permanently, or just rent month-to-month? Me, I have a time-share option myself that Mr. Pieper has set up for his early retirement.

Yes, I am remember that you are NOT from the South, but your icon made me post this latest attempt at humor (that's "Humour" for you Canadians who can't spell correctly) and a "dig" at you, anyway. And yeah, the computers are all programmed by egg-heads who don't know the difference between football and ballroom dancing. But I still maintain that an argument can certainly be made, despite your insistence that your opinion is "unarguably" not debatable.

Anyway, what's the point of Sonny even posting this weekly thread if we can't "argue" about this stuff?

[Beta]

But I still maintain that an argument can certainly be made, despite your insistence that your opinion is "unarguably" not debatable.

I actually meant to type "arguably" but I am better with numbers, than words. I do like Oregon this year (yuck) and their spread offense is fun to watch...but it pains me to think that their receiver not lowering his shoulder into the endzone..instead of pulling the "michael vick loaf of bread ball extend", cost Oregon a perfect season. I do think that Oregon is not happy with the lack of a conference championship that would give them another shot at a highly ranked team.

(that's "Humour" for you Canadians who can't spell correctly)

What's Canada?

[Dan Wishengrad]

What's Canada?

It's a quaint little land populated by English-wannabes that used to be a fun place for us Americans to visit and pillage in. Or at least it WAS -- until their loonie grew stronger than our dollar recently. Now it's just one more over-priced touristy area that we stupidly return to often to empty our wallets.

And stating you "like Oregon" has lost you almost as many rep points with me as Will Patton lost when he claimed he was actually a FAN of the Ducks. Respect their football team -- sure. But "like" Oregon? Have you no soul, man?

[Beta]

Ah, the boring apartment above a kickass party. Gotcha.

[OAKS]

Ah, the boring apartment above a kickass party. Gotcha.

Who's $$ is worth more than ours now. Ouch.

[Dan Wishengrad]

Ah, the boring apartment above a kickass party. Gotcha.

Who's $$ is worth more than ours now. Ouch.

Well sure, Will... that's why they bought the penthouse while we can only afford the floor below it.

And as soon as the Canucks realize the untapped potential of this idiotic bottled water craze (they have alot of water, albeit much of it needs to be thawed out first) they will probably become wealthier than the Kuwaitis. Rumor (sorry, "rumour") has it the Canadians also stood to make millions by exporting cocktail ice cubes to the U.S. but someone in their factory lost the formula. Oops, sorry again, that should have been spelled "factoury".