GRLC Meeting - Pre-Season Polls

[Troy Hood]

Gentlemen:

The GRLC Pre-Season Polls are as follows:

Div I

1 Lindenwood University
2 University of Illinois
3 University of Missouri
4 Missouri State University
5 Ilinois State University
6 Kansas University
7 Kansas State University
8 University of Arkansas
9 University of Nebraska
10 University of Mississippi
11 University of Iowa
12 Memphis University

Div II

1 Harding University
2 Augustana College
3 Creighton University
4 Dordt College
5 St. Louis University
6 Wheaton College
7 Depaul University
8 Washington University - St. Louis
9 Missouri University of Science & Technology (Formerly UM-Rolla)
10 Northwestern College
11 University of South Dakota
12 University of Nebraska - Omaha
13 Cornell College
14 Rockhurst College

Proceedings and results of the meeting will be posted shortly.

[scooter]

Nice to see Depaul, Rockhurst, and Ole Miss in the league.

[bste_lax]

We're #11! We're #11!

[scooter]

Proceedings and results of the meeting will be posted shortly.

Not that I have any business asking for these results, but Im still very curious to know what happend this past weekend. Anyone have any updates?

[cjwilhelmi]

Not that I have any business asking for these results, but Im still very curious to know what happend this past weekend. Anyone have any updates?

We showed up. Breakfast was catered. Coach Hood presided over the meeting, Commissioner Mosher was detained because he wife went into labor. We admitted some teams. DI did scheduling while DII knocked out their subdivisions and playoff structure. DII then did scheduling. Lunch was catered in. We ate. We then argued and discussed policy for this year. Some things passed. Some things failed. Coach Martin (Head Coach of UM-Rolla/M.U.S.T./Whatever they are called these days) was voted unanimously as Secretary. Coach Hood was voted unanimously to retain his role as At-Large. We argued some more. Something really funny happened. We talked about budget and website and other things. We voted unanimously to end the meeting. Everyone left. Coach Besik, Coach Martin and Coach Wilhelmi went and enjoyed adult beverages at a local wing place. Everyone had fun. No one was kicked out.

EDIT:: Just noticed that someone with a sense of humor changed my "title". Ha thanks Oaks

[NELAX21]

Not that I have any business asking for these results, but Im still very curious to know what happend this past weekend. Anyone have any updates?

We showed up. Breakfast was catered. Coach Hood presided over the meeting, Commissioner Mosher was detained because he wife went into labor. We admitted some teams. DI did scheduling while DII knocked out their subdivisions and playoff structure. DII then did scheduling. Lunch was catered in. We ate. We then argued and discussed policy for this year. Some things passed. Some things failed. Coach Martin (Head Coach of UM-Rolla/M.U.S.T./Whatever they are called these days) was voted unanimously as Secretary. Coach Hood was voted unanimously to retain his role as At-Large. We argued some more. Something really funny happened. We talked about budget and website and other things. We voted unanimously to end the meeting. Everyone left. Coach Besik, Coach Martin and Coach Wilhelmi went and enjoyed adult beverages at a local wing place. Everyone had fun. No one was kicked out.

EDIT:: Just noticed that someone with a sense of humor changed my "title". Ha thanks Oaks

I would say that is pretty much how it went down. Nothing really that important was up for discussion, a lot of small things. D 1 can now have players drive to games. The new rule is that as long as you are traveling according to your own University's rules you can drive your self to the game providing you have a letter from your University saying that they know this is how you are driving.

As Coach Wilhelmi said, something really funny did happen that had nothing to do with the meeting.

[scooter]

heard a rumor WIU dropped. If this is true, does it affect sub divisions?

[Matt_Gardiner]

Western Illinois did drop. It did not do a whole lot to subdivisions. The new subdivisions are...

NorthEast
Augustana
Cornell
DePaul
Wheaton

NorthWest
Creighton
Dordt
UN-Omaha
Northwestern
South Dakota

South
Harding
UM-Rolla/Missouri Institute of Science & Technology
Rockhurst
SLU
WashU

[beckner11]

we were also introduced to 2 new rules for this season, which I had heard nothing about until the meeting (maybe I'm just out of the loop these days):

1) If a faceoff man for team A false starts then he must immediately leave the field. The wingmen aren't released until the whistle is blown for the play to begin again. Team B may pick the ball up right away (which in a sense creates a fast break).

2) The 10 second count for when you leave the offensive restraining box will now begin as soon as the BALL leaves the box, regardless of whether there's position by the offense or not.

Someone please correct me if I've said these inaccurately but I believe this is what was determined to be the rules.

[Sonny]

link:
http://forums.collegelax.us/viewtopic.php?t=8919

[Madlax16]

Personaly i think those are two horrible rules. The 10 second count i can understand but the false start fastbreak rule i think is dumb. Team B should just be awarded the ball. Is this a upcoming rule for the NCAA or are we the sole owner of these new rules?

[Troy Hood]

TJ:

This is the NCAA Rules committee that came up with this rule and is proposing it. See the link on Sonny's post above your last post for the full information.

I'm very interested in seeing the face-off rule enforced. The tactic of intentionally committing an illegal procedure on the face-off to prevent a fast break created by a skilled face-off man will be eliminated. It will penalize a team for slowing down the game in this way.

The rule changing the 10 second count to start when the ball leaves the box regardless of possession does two things: 1) re-inforces the need for the offense to take care of the ball; 2) encourages the defense to extend on a ground ball outside the box rather than conceeding the possession.

[Michael Martin]

The new faceoff rule will be interesting. I had not seen many incidences of repetitive, intentional faceoff violations to prevent fastbreaks. A personal foul could have been assessed for repetitively committing the same technical foul. Now, intentional or not, it is proposed to award a short man-up fastbreak.

Has anyone seen how the officials are starting the action after the violation? Since there was no whistle, the players are constrained to their faceoff areas. Are the remaining 2 defending middies allowed to run to the defensive end of the line defining the faceoff wing area?

[Rob Graff]

I had not seen many incidences of repetitive, intentional faceoff violations to prevent fastbreaks.

Johns Hopkins did this to Deleware's f/o man. IF they won by cheating, they won. If they lost, they played defense. Smith was not able to generate fast breaks - a staple of Deleware's offense.

I've spoken with the UMLL assigner. Although no written description of the mechanic has yet come out, it was his understanding that the wing middies are not released from their locations behind the wing stripe until the whistle is blown, as you noted. And nor can they extend to below where the the wing line ends. But they can move around behind the wing line.

We're all waiting for the written mechanic.

Rob

[beckner11]

Corbin or Troy,
Are these new rules going to be enforced during the games on the 6th or are we going to hold off till they're officially implimented?