Mike Vick has topped himself again...

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Postby Sonny on Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:05 am

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Postby Zeuslax on Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:50 am

The other thing I hate about this case is how people are saying we should go lighter on Vick because the decision made against so and so in the NFL for doing whatever wasn't that tough. Forget that.......that thought process seems like a warped way to look at past decisions.
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Postby Beta on Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:59 am

Apparently the NAACP wasn't around during the OJ Simpson murder trial.


OJ didn't need the NAACP to get away with murder.

What I fail to see is why the NAACP disproportionately defends people, but they can't condemn people as well.

I wonder if the 4 white and 2 black people that started the NAACP would approve RL White's "speech" [sic] and other lovely actions in regards to the Mike Vick situation...and their various other lovely endeavors.
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Postby StrykerFSU on Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:01 am

Some interesting commentary:

From Jemele Hill,
Dear young, black men:

Today, many of you are angry. You are angry at a society that has swiftly and vigilantly punished a superstar quarterback for dogfighting, but often looks the other way as a grotesque number of black men die in the streets. You are angry at the NFL, which has punishments some of you feel unfairly targets those who look like you. You are angry at Michael Vick's buddies and criminal cohorts for "snitching" on Vick, noting that trainer Greg Anderson, a white man, sits in federal prison with his lips sealed, protecting Barry Bonds and refusing to cooperate with authorities.

You are feeling a lot of things -- some possessing merit -- but I caution you not to make Vick a martyr. Do not applaud him for taking his comeuppance like some modern-day gangster. Do not blame others for Vick's predicament when he alone should be held accountable for his actions.

Let this historic unraveling be a wake-up call for the young, black men caught up in the same lifestyle that claimed Vick. Let his prison sentence send the message that a continued allegiance to street culture successfully keeps young, black men frighteningly behind in American society.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/070821

From Tim Keown,
But now that Vick has pleaded guilty and will go to prison for his crimes, the justifications and defenses need to stop. The people who justify and defend on the basis of culture are demeaning themselves in the process. Don't tell me about Leonard Little or Jamal Lewis, and please, please, please don't tell me everybody who eats a T-bone or a piece of barbecued chicken is as guilty as Vick because the meat-processing business in this country is as inhumane as Bad Newz Kennels. Spare us both the specious comparisons and the pieties, and see it for what it is.

And do yourself and us a favor: Don't tell us we don't understand the subculture.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=keown/070821
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Postby Zeuslax on Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:10 am

You have to keep the street cred even after you made it?
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Postby OAKS on Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:55 pm

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Postby Campbell on Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:39 am

TexOle wrote:That is absolutely disgusting Campbell.

I love dogs. My family lost our dog just before Christmas, and all of this animal cruelty is horrific. I seriously do not know what to say to this case.


My apologies, I meant no offense. I am also a huge dog lover, owner, and foster. The ironic thing is that after all the media hub bub and public outcry, Vick is facing a pretty small penalty, in my opinion.
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Postby Sonny on Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:54 pm

Ookie's Plea Agreement:
http://sports.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0824/vickplea.pdf

Ookie's Summary of Facts:
http://espn.go.com/media/pdf/070824/vicksummary.pdf

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Postby Zeuslax on Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:22 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3527287&page=1

Vick speaks out. The "immaturity defense" has been used in the past and seems to have run its course. It’s also nice to see that he's found GOD, if it’s legit. I have a pessimistic feeling that the religion factor is going to play a large role in his calculating public relations campaign for forgiveness.
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Postby echo 600 on Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:29 pm

As for the street cred question three or four posts above: he looses it the second he starts rolling over on his drug dealing cousin as per his plea with the government.
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Postby Beta on Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:37 pm

Well I guess Vick decided to show everyone he is making attempts at being a good person now.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/26/vick/index.html
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Postby Ryan Hanavan on Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:47 am

Looks like Michael Vick turned himself in early to start serving his sentence. Maybe he's bored now that he can't make dogs fight for his entertainment?
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Postby KnoxVegas on Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:51 am

From deep inside the bowels of the Georgia Dome:

The Falcons horse trailer (used to transport team equipment) features images of Warrick Dunn, Keith Brookings, Alge Crumpler and... yep, MV! Still after four months, the Falcons seem to not be able to let go.
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Postby Zeuslax on Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:37 pm

Looks like Vick decided to go to jail early too. How the heck can you decide to go early....can you decide to go late (outside of medical or huge family issues)?
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Postby LaxRef on Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:45 pm

Zeuslax wrote:Looks like Vick decided to go to jail early too. How the heck can you decide to go early....can you decide to go late (outside of medical or huge family issues)?


I think it's often a point of negotiation in plea agreements.

As to why he'd start serving early, well, you get to finish early, too.
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