all conference chat once again

[JaMoms]

wow u are so incorrect its rediculous, im not even going to get into the other players stars on our team, ha dont even know what to say to that

secondly you stated that the AC list HAS to hvae other teams on it and that is entirely false. and if that was the case what would be the point? good players would be getting jipped just because other teams are sad cuz THEIR players aren't being represented when they are NOT the best players in the league.

the best players get on the list period if they are all on the same team so be it. thats how it is. think about it UMD is the number 7 team in the nation they are gonna hvae the best players in the conf, figure it out

back to the individual thing, individually how did the st olaf players do against UMD? if anybody would hvae done anything that game this discussion would be real different

[Gopherlax29]

Bottom line is those Olaf guys did this last year too. I played (with a year of mind you) on one of their summer teams (Olsen) and he was "not the best player on our team", nowhere even near the talent of a player that couldn't crack UMD top 5 in attack and had to move to midi this year (Mittelstaedt)... Those Olaf guys are not as good as the stats show, not bad eith though...

Edited due to poor choice of words...

[fischman]

I really don't understand why it has to get so personal... man... stop disrespecting everybody. You guys are really painting a bad picture of your programs. You can have your opinions but don't be so arrogant about them.

Olson lead the nation in points per game this year. I don't care what teams we played... that says something... he is not garbage. He and MacIntyre are the reasons for our success this year.

I am sorry... I just really can't get over the arogence displayed by some of the UMD and UofM players.

ps... SOME of the UMD and UofM players (in fact i believe that most of the players and coaches on the teams and extremely talented and humble... I know this from the games we have played against them... so this is by no means a knock on those programs... which bring awesome respect nationally to our conference)

[JaMoms]

champ, i will reveal my identity to you later, its not releveant to debate at hand


team impact players are for team mvp awards or team banquet crap

first team AC are the best players in the UMLL. period

[Gopherlax29]

I am not a player on the Gophers, just my name was made when I did.
Also, if you know anything I led this league in goals as a sophomore 2 years ago, by far I might add, and was only a second team selection. It is not based all on stats, and I am not a by prodcut of being a gopher on the first team for just being a gopher. Even though I think Dulax19 was on 1st team that year, what a joke...

I wasn't saying they didn't have good numbers, just that they wouldn't play on the top 2 teams in the league. That equals 6 startign attackmen fighting for 3 spots on all conference right? Where do 7 and 8 come in? Again thats assuming that UMD doesn't have quality back-ups, which i know they do...

[Champ]

JaMoms,

Now you need to go re-read BOTH of my posts. I never said there have to be people from each team on there. That is just (usually) how it works out.

Why do you keep pointing out how they did vs. Duluth? That doesn't affect at all what team they get placed on. It is based on their performance accross the entire league.

And who are you? Bolded so you don't miss it this time.

Sorry you posted while I was posting-

champ, i will reveal my identity to you later, its not releveant to debate at hand

It doesn't necessarily matter, but it is much easier to post things when you don't have to put your name out there and be anonymous and don't have to take any responsibility.

[umdulax1]

Please follow the message board rules and guidelines or I will lock this post as well as I did to the last. A debate is acceptable but lets stop the attacks on players and teams.

For a refresher:
http://forums.collegelax.us/viewtopic.php?t=27

[Sonny]

Time for some folks to re-read the message board rules....

1. KEEP IT CIVIL; DO NOT "FLAME"; ATTACKS ON MCLA TEAMS/CONFERENCES/PLAYERS NOT ALLOWED; NO CURSE WORDS ALLOWED
Do not personalize any post. Debate vs. flaming: This is a friendly place. Debate is encouraged, but flaming is not allowed. Flaming is personally attacking someone. For example, saying "Any idiot knows that isn't true" is flaming because the person was just called an idiot, while "I passionately disagree" is not flaming even though it's rather emotionally charged. “Attacks” on MCLA players, coaches, teams, conferences, referees, and/or administrators are not allowed under any circumstances. Finally no curse words are allowed on the message forums. Inserting characters for curse words is not an acceptable substitute!

Bottom line -- If you can’t make your point with out disparaging another member of the MCLA community, then do not make it on CollegeLAX. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

LINK:
http://forums.collegelax.us/viewtopic.php?t=27

[Mavlax25]

yeah I feel like the only way this can be settled is a fight to the death, right? Because if it came down to that MSU would win no doubt, I mean we still have Dylan as our coach and you have all seen him wield his D-pole(is it against the forum rules to give your own teammates crap?). No I'm just joking.

But I really do agree with what "schelitzche" said in his post. I especialy agree with his last statements.

As a UMD alum, I actually have to agree about getting some other players on the top All-conf teams. Yes, I think this year is different with Duluth because they DO have enough guys who are great players to take most spots on the first teams. With that said, I also believe that for Olaf to put up the numbers they did, they must have had players who can play. The key difference is, and at no fault to UMD, that these other players are playing with guys who sometimes can't catch and throw! Its much easier to score when you have players who can feed, its much easier to assist when you have players who know how and when to cut, its much easier to run fast breaks when you have a goalie who can outlet the ball on a dime, etc, etc.....

Not really sure what my point is here but just wanted to pipe in on this topic!

And lastly you cannot just a player by how they played last year, or how they did over the summer. If people put in the time and make sure they do the small things right, like get in shape, work on their stick they can be a completly different player. Like myself this season and last is a complete 180. THink about it

~Hurm~
Peace, Love, Lacrosse

[JaMoms]

champ,

i keep bringing up the umd game because it was the true test. the only tough team besides the u faced all year. the fact that he put up a bunch of points against the lower teams and merely unseen against the better ones shows that sure he can play with the bottom part of the league, not the top, noting a second team all conf at best. it just makes sense


its common logic that the strength of schedule matters. a team can play the mary sisters of the blind and a player can puts up a bunch of points. what about it? you put up a bunch of points against bad teams. one has to put up huge points against good teams in order to be good.... see the connection fischman? so ur right playing really bad teams and putting points does say something... in a negative way though

[Pinball]

I played (with a year of mind you) on one of their summer teams (Olsen) and he was "not the best player on our team",...

Johnny-

It is ok to tell everyone that i was the best player on that team, i am ok with that.

[Champ]

I understand full well what it means to play against the best team and perform.

Just realize how the nominations are made. Obviously the best player is the best player is the best player, but it doesn't always end up looking like that in the end.

This is the fairest way to do it, having coaches submit players after each game (outlined in my first post, section B).

[Adam Gamradt]

I would like to jump in here and make one point, only because my team is portrayed negatively, and unjustly in this thread.

There are no Minnesota players engaged in debating the impending all conference selections. Johnny did a good job of distancing himself afterward, but that Gopher in his handle is an easy mistake to make if your not paying attention.

Ok, I would like to make two points.

As far as I understand each team gets to vote, and the list is then compiled. The selections will represent a consensus opinion. They won't go how the anonymous troll wants it, nor will they go completely in the opposite direction.

And just for levity, I have a third point.

JaMoms is defined by the urban dictionary as an: Esoteric way of saying your mother. jamoms is mostly used in any reply to a question or a comment by slightly modifying that question/comment.

So I repsond to this nonsense by putting my newfound knowledge to work! I respond thusly! Don't you guys think JaMoms should be an all conference selection?

I fail to see how that is esoteric in any way. Maybe that's what makes it esoteric? Either way, I'm pretty sure there's a double entendre in there somewhere.

Meh, what do I know. I'm just some goof who's already alt-tabbed twice during this post because his boss walked up behind him without warning.

[horn17]

JaMoms is defined by the urban dictionary as an: Esoteric way of saying your mother. jamoms is mostly used in any reply to a question or a comment by slightly modifying that question/comment.

I need to get a copy of that dictonary, think about how much fun I could have at work if I started changing out words that I use for ones that I found in there.....