Carthage College to Add Div III Lax

by **A.J. Stevens** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:49 am

Carthage is adding a Div III Men's lacrosse team.

Will the rest of the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin be following soon?

Carthage
Augustana
North Central
Wheaton
Elmhurst
Illinois Wesleyan
Millikin
North Park

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by **scooter** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:23 pm

do you have link to any articles about this?

by **A.J. Stevens** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:47 pm

Job posting with the NCAA

http://ncaa.thetask.com/market/view_full.php?id=44336

by **Sonny** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:51 pm

A.J. Stevens wrote:Job posting with the NCAA

http://ncaa.thetask.com/market/view_full.php?id=44336

If they are hiring one coach for both men's and women's lacrosse... they clearly don't have too much of an idea of what they are getting into.

by **davewiley** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:15 pm

"Development" of club teams as the first step...that's going to be a hard slog for sure.

by **Woodlawn** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:52 pm

It seems like D3 is growing quickly. Isn't Neuman in Kansas Varsity? Also I'd heard Missouri Baptist was going varsity? Isn't there a school in Arkansas going varsity too?

by **A.J. Stevens** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:08 pm

Sonny wrote:
A.J. Stevens wrote:Job posting with the NCAA

http://ncaa.thetask.com/market/view_full.php?id=44336

If they are hiring one coach for both men's and women's lacrosse... they clearly don't have too much of an idea of what they are getting into.

They will hire a 2nd coach when they make the move to Div III from club

by **davewiley** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:05 pm

From what I know, Missouri Baptist is an NAIA school, and NAIA currently doesn't offer a championship in lacrosse, so it's a little bit tough to define what "varsity" means in that case. As for Newman, I read that they'd decided to switch the school from NAIA to NCAA Division II, and had made some cuts to programs (perhaps connected to the switch?), not sure where lacrosse fits into the new situation, but given the small number of D2 schools playing varsity lacrosse, it's hard to see D2 lacrosse working out at Newman (just my opinion). All I DO know is that Newman is no longer returning e-mails about having a women's team join the women's club league (CPWLL), so I'm guessing that plan has been shelved for now.

by **Arklax** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:57 pm

Woodlawn wrote: Isn't there a school in Arkansas going varsity too?

http://forums.collegelax.us/viewtopic.php?t=3858

Hendrix in Conway, AR. They have a coaching staff already and should be playing a fall ball schedule this year.

by **scooter** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:41 pm

just wondering....has either arkansas or harding tried to schedule hendrix for next season?

by **Arklax** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:15 pm

I know we've been in contact with Coach Lichtig, and we should at least be playing a fall ball game, but we have hopes of a spring game as well.

by **beckner11** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:47 pm

how far is hendrix from fayetteville?....maybe we can work it out for a mini round robin if they will travel to a club team in the fall or spring?

by **cjwilhelmi** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:19 pm

The Hendrix coach is Jeremy Lichtig (SP?), he played for Auburn is a good dude. I'm sure he would be down for a game if you call him.

by **Arklax** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:27 pm

Conway is 45 minutes this side of Little Rock, so tag on maybe an extra 2 hours. I know they would be ready facility wise to host us. As far as hosting them, along with other teams, we'd love to. We'll continue to look into it.

by **WheatonFan** on Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:32 pm

To get back to CCIW lacrosse. I have some serious doubts about Carthage being the catalyst for a full set of CCIW lacrosse schools. I see two problems.

1. As pointed out above, the example of a completely new program will not encourage other schools to follow with programs of their own. A better example for the other schools would be if Augie or Wheaton (honestly, Augie would be the best example, you guys have done a GREAT job in the last two years) moved up to a D-III program. I just can't see a program that is coached by a single mens and women's coach instilling much confidence in the rest of the schools.

2. TITLE 9.
A lot of CCIW schools are pretty small and would have a hard time supporting a D-III team and meeting Title 9 standards. I've spoken to a Wheaton Athletics official and was basically told that couldn't happen the way things are now. From what I understand Wheaton would have to pickup both a D-III men's and women's program and just doesn't have the budget to take it all one at once.

As much as I would love to see the CCIW schools in NCAA lacrosse competition, I don't think it will be happening any time soon and not based on the example of one school's start-up program. Augie, I think you're our best bet.