couple of (constitutional) questions

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Postby FLALAX on Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:03 pm

It is debated what aspects of constitutional law foreign nationals should be covered under. The right to own and carry a firearm should not be one of them.

Now if a state wants to set there own laws concerning gun ownership that is another question, but federally they should not be able to carry or own a firearm.
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Re: no way

Postby KnoxVegas on Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:33 pm

FLALAX wrote:It is debated what aspects of constitutional law foreign nationals should be covered under.


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Postby StrykerFSU on Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:50 am

My initial response to this questions would be that of course foreign nationals should not be allowed to own guns. But then I remember the roaming hordes of armed criminals in New Orleans after Katrina and I think that people need to be able to defend themselves when the agencies of the state prove completely incapable. We also allow foreign nationals to serve in our armed forces, so we trust them with guns in at least one context.

Foreign nationals resided in the United States legally should be allowed guns given the same precautions and safety checks as US citizens. In my opinion, you can't legislate or regulate incidents like this one away.
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Re: no way

Postby Sonny on Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:42 am

KnoxVegas wrote:
FLALAX wrote:It is debated what aspects of constitutional law foreign nationals should be covered under.


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Re: couple of (constitutional) questions

Postby Woodlawn on Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:52 pm

Campbell wrote:On a totally unrelated note, I heard on NPR they are possibly going to offer Gonzalez's assistant immunity to get her testimony since she invoked her 5th ammendment right. My question is if you invoke the 5th and then it is found that you had no reason to, and knew you had no reason to, are you legally liable for abusing that right if in doing so you obstruct the justice process? I realize her immunity may in fact cover it, and although I mention the current situation my question is more about the general use of the 5th ammendment.
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Postby Zeuslax on Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:44 pm

I don't know if anyone else saw the proceedings, but Gonzales didn't do so well. I loved the guy in the back that was keeping track of the times he said "I don't recall". He basically had a sign where he marked off each time he made the statement. In Gonzalez’s defense, with a job such as his, it would be impossible to remember every detail from every day. Regardless, he's been proven and admitted to be incompetent on the issue and is beginning (actually has already accomplished this) to really look like a moron. Not the stature that anyone wants from someone holding a position such as his. It's time to step down or be put down by the Exec.
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Postby Hugh Nunn on Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:40 pm

Adam Gamradt wrote:I think the issue was that he was not "involuntarily" committed to the mental institution, so the purchase was legal.

Not sure, I'll have to check out that NPR story. Anybody have a link?


You are correct. The judge ordered outpatient counseling, which does not disqualify him from the gun purchase.
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Postby Hackalicious on Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:27 pm

Zeuslax wrote:I don't know if anyone else saw the proceedings, but Gonzales didn't do so well. ...
It's time to step down or be put down by the Exec.


"Put down"?

Did you just suggest that the President euthanize the Attorney General?

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