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Postby Beta on Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:24 pm

Ok so there's prejudice at the higher level..but not at the lower level then?

(No need to "explain" with crayons and fingerpaint...Im tryin to make a point that maybe, perhaps...there's prejudice from top to bottom)
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Postby sohotrightnow on Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:27 pm

Ok so there's prejudice at the higher level..but not at the lower level then?


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Postby Beta on Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:34 pm

You're saying there's prejudice against black coaches...and I am making the comparison that there's prejudice against white running backs.

99% of coaches = white
99% of running backs = black

Prejudice can't be happening both ways?
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Postby sohotrightnow on Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:43 pm

You're saying there's prejudice against black coaches...and I am making the comparison that there's prejudice against white running backs.

99% of coaches = white
99% of running backs = black

Prejudice can't be happening both ways?


Where is the prejudice in having black running backs?

White people are hiring the white coaches! White people are recruiting the best players! Unless these white coaches have an agenda against their own race, then I am missing your comparison. Do you see the distinction? If you don't, I feel bad.
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Postby Beta on Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:49 pm

Not all recruiters are white.

Regardless, if there is a disproportionately low number of black coaches and that signifies a problem...why doesn't a disproportionately low number of white tailback's signify a problem as well?

White people in America = 74%
White coaches = 99%
White RB's = 1%

Black people in America = 12%
Black coaches = 1%
Black RB's = 99%

(information borrowed from "The Wikipedia")

Obviously people aren't hired/recruited based solely on talent...or else there'd be a lotta new coaches/players at schools.
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Postby sohotrightnow on Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:03 pm

Ok, you win. It's a real shame that all of the white RB's who run 4.4 40s and have 45" verticals aren't getting looks from top colleges. Perhaps this injustice will be corrected at some point in history.
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Postby bste_lax on Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:07 pm

Didn't South Carolina have a decent white running back within the last 3-4 years?

Iowa's leading rusher from the 2004 season was white.....but he mainly played since the five guys in front of him on the depth chart got hurt.
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Postby Brent Burns on Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:01 pm

Suppose Sam McGuffie is going to a DI football school in the fall of 2008, will that school have him primarily play as a fullback or would they look at moving him around that best fit their playing scheme? I would not be surprised that he may play as a fullback and as a blocker.

According to the rivals.com site, his yardage went up from 800 something in 2005 (sophomore year) to around 3,200 yards last fall. I am really curious if his linemen would be returning this fall to break up holes for him again in the fall of 2007.

Didn't Cy-Fair go all the way to 5A championship game and lose?
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Postby StrykerFSU on Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:46 pm

Isn't he 6', 185 lbs? Despite his apparent athleticism, I think he will struggle in big time college football because of his smaller size.

On a different note, what was up with that soundtrack on his video? Am I the only one who found it a little inappropriate to have gangsta rap dropping n-bombs and talking about 'hos (apparently only inappropriate language when coming from the I-Man) on a highlight tape? I don't know if he was responsible for the choice but I had to turn the sound off in my office...and I don't even have an office mate! Hardly the way I would choose to advertise myself. I hope Gov. Bowden steers clear of this guy.
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Postby Danny Hogan on Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:14 pm

sohot where did you get that fact about eddie robinson?
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Postby Brent Burns on Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:39 pm

StrykerFSU wrote:Isn't he 6', 185 lbs? Despite his apparent athleticism, I think he will struggle in big time college football because of his smaller size.


There are several YouTube clips of #2 from Cy-Fair Bobcats, and his size is not that intimidating really. Several teams were able to tackle him with no problems except for his "hurdle" and "spin" moves. Like some folks said in this thread, it was his offensive linemen who paved the way for him. If one of you key in "Cy-Fair Bobcats" at YouTube, you will find several very brief vidclips of McGuffie.
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Postby Danny Hogan on Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:28 pm

re: size, between now and the beginning of the 08 football season, i bet he picks up 20 lbs if he is on a d1 regimen
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Postby sohotrightnow on Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:09 am

sohot where did you get that fact about eddie robinson?


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id ... type=story

The third theme was Eddie Robinson, the coach. His career at Grambling State is all over the news today. It lasted through 11 presidents and three wars. Grambling State was home to Coach and his wife for more than 65 years. They were married that long and he coached for 56 years -- all at the same institution. In spite of having more wins than any other coach, sending more than 300 players to NFL camps, having a graduation rate of 80 percent when football graduation rates were around 50 percent, and never having a player get in trouble with the law until his 56th year of coaching, Robinson was never even offered an interview for a Division I-A university head coaching job. I do not think he ever would have left Grambling State, but he told me he would have liked to have been asked.



And Stryker, I think some random fan/player in all likelihood made that highlight tape. The power of YouTube can be a good/bad thing. As you can see, there are quite a few clips of him. In the beginning of the clip, it says this montage was done by some random guy named Ben.
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Postby Danny Hogan on Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:13 am

that sucks man, in my lifetime grambling wasn't exactly a powerhouse...but it's hard to fathom a coach with his reputation's name not being brought up from time to time for coaching vacancies.
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Postby jessexy on Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:13 pm

Beta wrote:
sohotrightnow wrote:There is a vast conspiracy by white coaches to keep the white man down and from becoming a star running back at the college level and the NFL, right? So ridiculous.


Isn't everyone saying there's a conspiracy that there are so many white coaches? 98-99% of coaches are white, 98-99% of college tailbacks aren't white.

I may be crazy, but if someone were to be picking teams for backyard football...who would be first chosen based on looks alone...

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isn't this an oxymoron altogether in itself. a white guy with a piece and chain and his hat cocked to the side v. a black guy in a suit. completely reverses the image of the black football player v. the white football player.

aint exactly Pacman Jones compared to Tom Brady here.....

and where did we get the 1% white running back stat from??? Texas A&M, who is recruiting McGuffie, had 2 white running backs on its roster last year alone. Florida won a National Championship with one too, he just took shotgun snaps as a QB.
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