1st MDIA Div. A Poll (2/23/05) is out

[Walter]

Prediction:
the LSA will not be in the top 25 for the first time in long time on Wednesday.
Prediction:
The LSA will recieve the 16th seed in MN.
Prediction:
The LSA will not win another top 25 game this year. (the lone win vs. Florida who will not be in the top 25 either come this week.)

[onpoint]

How can you support the idea that these teams, at the bare minimum, are not at least worthy of Top 25 contention?

Here is how I support that:

Texas: 4-5 overall, 0-2 vs. ranked opponents, 2 losses to unranked opponents

TAMU: 6-8 overall, 1-6 vs. ranked opponents, 1 loss to unranked opponent

Tech: 2-3 overall, 1-2 vs. ranked opponents (TAMU), 1 loss to unranked opponents.

Hard to argue the facts there.

[Bentiss]

If you're going to dissect every word, try reading the post for its intended message, and don't dwell on verb agreement (I'm in class enough as it is).

Why convey a point without correctly stating it? I read what is posted...period...and you posted what I thought to be an unfinished point. I took it upon myself to clarify for all because you'd only be fooling yourelf if all 3 of those teams HAVE PLAYED at a Top 25 level; therefore not all can CONTINUE to do so...

Sorry for repeating my prior post...

[Bentiss]

Texas: 4-5 overall, 0-2 vs. ranked opponents, 2 losses to unranked opponents

TAMU: 6-8 overall, 1-6 vs. ranked opponents, 1 loss to unranked opponent

Tech: 2-3 overall, 1-2 vs. ranked opponents (TAMU), 1 loss to unranked opponents.

Three sub .500 teams DO NOT deserve a Top 25 ranking. If they keep playing at that Top 25 level maybe Texas will be 8-10, TAMU 12-16, and Tech 4-6 pretty soon...

[benji]

How can you support the idea that these teams, at the bare minimum, are not at least worthy of Top 25 contention?

Here is how I support that:

Texas: 4-5 overall, 0-2 vs. ranked opponents, 2 losses to unranked opponents

TAMU: 6-8 overall, 1-6 vs. ranked opponents, 1 loss to unranked opponent

Tech: 2-3 overall, 1-2 vs. ranked opponents (TAMU), 1 loss to unranked opponents.

Hard to argue the facts there.

Alex, you make a very valid point. Though, I'm wondering how New Hampshire moves up (predicted) so greatly after only defeating us in overtime? I mean, they were 25th, and its being speculated that they will come into the next poll at 19th ... I know a win is a win and a loss is a loss, my question is now, are the polls being developed stricly in regards to a teams OOC win/ loss record, or are we taking into account the manner in which the two teams played each other, as well as the nature of the game?

Three recent LSA losses have been decided by one goal; two of those in overtime. If TTU and TAMU simply drop in their rank, I would completely understand. I'm just unsure as to how so many are casting these two teams out of the polls without a doubt whatsoever. 23rd (TTU) vs. 25th (UNH) was a close game. Seems competitive to me. This mini-discussion of sorts was started because the LSA was quoted as being unable to compete with other Top 25 teams. I know I'm being somewhat repetitive, I'm just trying to get a better grasp of how people are evaluating other teams. I do not beleive a simple win/loss ratio can suffice for such a complicated task.

Also, to clarify, when I say "worthy of Top 25 Contention," I mean exaclty that... contention. The impression that I'm getting is that TTU and TAMU are expected to drop far from the polls and not even receive votes. In my opinion, solid games against good teams (including #10 Oakland) should not constitute means to lose such a great amount of standing. I'm trying to get a better grasp of how others are basing thier evaluations...

[uzisuicide]

First of I would not call an 8 goal loss to Oakland a solid game. 8 Goals is a sizable victory in any league, no disrespect but that is the truth. & as for New Hamp beating the Aggies in a close game, and NH moving up a whole bunch, I wouldn't necessarily agree with that either. It seems a lot is being based on A&M's past rep rather than their current one. Like I said before the win holds weight initially but as the seasons has dragged on, it no longer does, because these are obviously not the Aggs of old. No offense to them, but they are a very young team. So perhaps NH is being overrated for beating the Aggies. As for Florida's loss to the Aggies, hey good for A&M, and what was the story of that game, your guess is as good as mine. I sincerely would like to see the LSA make a turn around in general against out of conference opponents, but the road is not going to get any easier. And as for your comment about the weather and field augmentations in Houston, and that no being representative of the LSA is silly. Did it ever occur to you that field conditions effected the other teams as well. It wasn't just your team having to make quick cuts in the mud. Besides the rules are unless you see lightining play ball. It's part of the game, and ya it's no fun to play a mud game, but blaming your performance on conditions is about as productive as blaming officials, or your equipment. Bottom line is strap it up and take care of business. You think the weather is bad, adapt, you think the calls aren't going your way, play better, your equipment is messed up, fix it or borrow someone elses. I know that the weather was the issue in Houston, and not any of these other factors I mentioned, but my point is that it is all part of the game.

[sohotrightnow]

as many reputation votes as Arizona and Cal and Stanford have gotten in the past, i wouldnt be commenting about A&M losing 6 places in the polls and staying ahead of an unranked team that it hasnt lost to in 12 years.

I just saw this post. Are you serious jessexy? Name a year Cal or Stanford received reputation votes. Neither team has been ranked in the top 25 since 2003. Perhaps they were overrated in 2002 when they both took A&M behind the woodshed?

[benji]

Prediction:
the LSA will not be in the top 25 for the first time in long time on Wednesday.
Prediction:
The LSA will recieve the 16th seed in MN.
Prediction:
The LSA will not win another top 25 game this year. (the lone win vs. Florida who will not be in the top 25 either come this week.)

... uh-oh ...

[Daniel Morris]

To defend the upward movement of UNH, here is a team that was two places shy of making the first poll of the season and defeating two ranked teams in their own region. In addition, UNH was playing their first games/scrimmages of the season (quite possibly their first time outside) when A&M & Texas Tech had a combined 10 games (at least) under their belts. Moving up to 22nd in the polls seems very reasonable given these facts.

[Walter]

Prediction:
the LSA will not be in the top 25 for the first time in long time on Wednesday.
Prediction:
The LSA will recieve the 16th seed in MN.
Prediction:
The LSA will not win another top 25 game this year. (the lone win vs. Florida who will not be in the top 25 either come this week.)

... uh-oh ...

Congrads to TT for hitting up the #25 spot in the poll, you should be proud of making me look like a moron.

[benji]

Not at all, just giving you a hard time.

25th is nowhere near where we wanna be.

[bste_lax]

Congrads to TT for hitting up the #25 spot in the poll, you should be proud of making me look like a moron.

I think your signature does that for you.