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Postby Vox on Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:00 am

Agreed, as long as there is a stoppage so the coach can ask for the stick check.
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Postby LaxRef on Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:37 am

Vox wrote:Agreed, as long as there is a stoppage so the coach can ask for the stick check.


Ah, you're pointing out that you could win the faceoff and score immediately. But the coach could call for the stick check prior to the OT faceoff.
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Postby Vox on Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:36 am

Agreed.

Now, which one of the opponent's crosses would the coach challenge prior to the OT face-off?

And if the crosse that the coach really wants to check is not on the field but is the usual substitute for the long pole who participates as a wing man on the face-off?

For OT games, it is recommended for the officials to check the legality of the scorer's crosse to minimize post game questions about it.

Alternatively, change AR 123 on page 59 to permit the coach's challenge.
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Postby laxfan25 on Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:54 pm

Vox wrote:And if the crosse that the coach really wants to check is not on the field but is the usual substitute for the long pole who participates as a wing man on the face-off?

He can call for a check on a player who is not currently in the game if he so chooses.
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Postby LaxRef on Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:59 pm

Vox wrote:For OT games, it is recommended for the officials to check the legality of the scorer's crosse to minimize post game questions about it.


Recommended by whom? People who want to see you get your schedule pulled?
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Postby Vox on Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:22 pm

In response to the previous two postings

1. I guess I don't understand why a coach would want to check the player's stick when he's not on the field. I'm not aware that a player needs to have his crosse and backup crosses in his possession when not on the field. That aside, even if the crosse not on the field is illegal, what's the penalty?

2. The recommendation comes from me and the establishment of a standard protocol for checking the OT scoring crosse should not result in being removed from future assignments. Unless, if adopted, you fail to follow it.

That said, have AR 123 changed so the coach can issue the challenge in OT for the goal scorer's crosse is preferred. If the losing coach believes in the sportsmanship of the opponent, why wouldn't we?
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Postby LaxRef on Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:36 pm

Vox wrote:In response to the previous two postings

1. I guess I don't understand why a coach would want to check the player's stick when he's not on the field. I'm not aware that a player needs to have his crosse and backup crosses in his possession when not on the field. That aside, even if the crosse not on the field is illegal, what's the penalty?


The same as if it were on the field.

Vox wrote:2. The recommendation comes from me and the establishment of a standard protocol for checking the OT scoring crosse should not result in being removed from future assignments. Unless, if adopted, you fail to follow it.

That said, have AR 123 changed so the coach can issue the challenge in OT for the goal scorer's crosse is preferred. If the losing coach believes in the sportsmanship of the opponent, why wouldn't we?


Well, sure, if they change the rule, I'll do it. But they've obviously made a decision about how they want OT goals handled, since there's an A.R. saying do not check the stick after an OT goal! If you can get them to change the rule, more power to you.
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Postby laxfan25 on Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:26 pm

Vox wrote: 1. I guess I don't understand why a coach would want to check the player's stick when he's not on the field.

Because in your previous post you specifically mentioned that the guy the coach wanted to have checked is the sub waiting to go in for the FOGO! The player does not have to be in the game when the coach requests an equipment check on him.
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