If this isn't a touchy subject I don't know what is.

[sohotrightnow]

Fight down erections? This is so ridiculous that I don't even believe it. Do you get erections every time you are around a woman? How old are you? 10? If anything, homosexuals should be offended by the idea that you think they find you attractive just because you are a guy. Give me a break. By your reasoning, a heterosexual female should have an orgasm whenever she sees a man in a shower.

As you can see from an earlier post in this thread, my University and several others I imagine, have co-ed bathrooms and showers. You live and learn. In fact, IMHO, people became more comfortable in their sexuality because of the co-ed bathrooms.

[Tim Whitehead]

Fight down erections? This is so ridiculous that I don't even believe it. Do you get erections every time you are around a woman? How old are you? 10? If anything, homosexuals should be offended by the idea that you think they find you attractive just because you are a guy. Give me a break. By your reasoning, a heterosexual female should have an orgasm whenever she sees a man in a shower.

Oh, please. Everybody knows that women don't have orgasms.

[sohotrightnow]

Well played

[BB]

I love the "rather than give you a valid response I'll attack your age, and give you reasoning which doesn't make much sense or have any uselfullness in the argument."

If you think an orgasm and an erection are the same thing my friend you should really look into some help.

Also the kid was in highschool in a communtiy bathroom. There are some hormones going on at that time. While I may not get an erection at the site of a naked woman any longer, I can tell you it is definately exciting and there was a time when I could(more like 6th grade), why would the boys in "Porky's" bother looking through the hole in the wall? When they should have been realizing that there is no reason to check out the sex you are attracted to while they are naked.

Again- what is the difference between a man in a room full of naked men that he may or may not be attracted to based upon his standards, and or tastes, and a man in a roomful of women that he may or may not be attracted to.

For the record, I don't care. I'll personally walk around naked in front of men, women, gay men, gay women, bisexual men and women at the same time all while singing the Macarena.

I also don't think they are all attracted to me, but my guess is in a room full of 30 athletes they would find 1 attractive (probably not me). Unless it was the rugby team I would guess I would find an attractive female in a room with 30 naked women.

Make an argument against a point and I will give respect, but now you are just taking pot shots for no reason what so ever not even backing up your argument.

Big difference between Bigotry/ and a person that wants privacy.

[sohotrightnow]

Sorry, I should have used aroused.

[sohotrightnow]

I love how my response comes under attack from somebody who obviously is not aware of a function known as "spell check" and who cites Porky's as a legitimate source. In doing so with the latter, you completely undermine this discourse in using the generalization found in this movie by applying it to the issue of homosexuals in the locker room.

If you revert back to my original claim, it was directed towards individuals on this board who were shocked and dismayed that gay men acted appropriately in a locker room setting as if that were out of the ordinary. For some reason, you decided to go on a tangent that made virtually no sense and then dragged me into your mess.

[DanGenck]

By a show of hands, how many of your used Porky's in your senior thesis? Exactly...

[DanGenck]

I love how my response comes under attack from somebody who obviously is not aware of a function known as "spell check" and who cites Porky's as a legitimate source. In doing so with the latter, you completely undermine this discourse in using the generalization found in this movie by applying it to the issue of homosexuals in the locker room.

If you revert back to my original claim, it was directed towards individuals on this board who were shocked and dismayed that gay men acted appropriately in a locker room setting as if that were out of the ordinary. For some reason, you decided to go on a tangent that made virtually no sense and then dragged me into your mess.

I'm with you, man. It's just a locker room and if you're comfortable with yourself and your own situation, then you will be fine.

[Sonny]

Be (super) nice with this topic kids, lest I go toward the nuclear button.

Thank you very much.

[yourmom]

If you revert back to my original claim, it was directed towards individuals on this board who were shocked and dismayed that gay men acted appropriately in a locker room setting as if that were out of the ordinary. For some reason, you decided to go on a tangent that made virtually no sense and then dragged me into your mess.

I didn't see anyone post anything about being outraged or completely let down on this subject. For the most part I think this has been a very good thread showing valid points on both sides.

P.S. don't tell me in middle school the trapper keeper wasn't used as much as a shield, as it was an organizer.

[sohotrightnow]

As a former player at Mizzou, the locker room thing was never an issue. The very few times we actually had a locker to change in, I don't remember Kyle ever being in the there. I guess it could be different with the current players now knowing that he is gay, but if everyone can be mature about it, it shouldn't be a problem. In my playing days, Kyle never acted inappropriately in any way associated with this issue.

This statement, from one of his players no less, implies, in my opinion, that it was surprising that he acted appropriately.

[Brendan Barry]

P.S. don't tell me in middle school the trapper keeper wasn't used as much as a shield, as it was an organizer. yourmom

So... trapper keepers are out now?

[OAKS]

As a former player at Mizzou, the locker room thing was never an issue. The very few times we actually had a locker to change in, I don't remember Kyle ever being in the there. I guess it could be different with the current players now knowing that he is gay, but if everyone can be mature about it, it shouldn't be a problem. In my playing days, Kyle never acted inappropriately in any way associated with this issue.

This statement, from one of his players no less, implies, in my opinion, that it was surprising that he acted appropriately.

In my opinion it's a statement that is geared toward defending him and stating that their situation in a locker room was no different from any other team and that his sexual orientation was a non-issue.

Perhaps we shouldn't try to read into his words, but rather read his words and/or ask him what he meant.

Maybe the fact that so many people are talking about the issue is what's wrong. Things like this shouldn't be an issue at all unless something questionable actually occurs (I'm meaning this in a general sort of way, such as a male coach doing inappropriate things with a women's team member, P.E. coach doing something with a high school kid, etc.).

[sohotrightnow]

I admit that I may have construed his words in a manner that was not intended, but I just am at odds with the fact that so many people are uncomfortable with this situation. I guess the impression I get (I may be severely wrong) from some people is that since an individual is a homosexual they are necessarily going to be attracted to all males, and that is simply preposterous. Perhaps it's the fact that I grew up in an area that is tolerant of all people no matter their creed, race, color, sexual orientation, etc. and I was taught as such to be accepting and be comfortable around individuals from all walks of life.

[grinderpete]

I admit that I may have construed his words in a manner that was not intended, but I just am at odds with the fact that so many people are uncomfortable with this situation. I guess the impression I get (I may be severely wrong) from some people is that since an individual is a homosexual they are necessarily going to be attracted to all males, and that is simply preposterous. Perhaps it's the fact that I grew up in an area that is tolerant of all people no matter their creed, race, color, sexual orientation, etc. and I was taught as such to be accepting and be comfortable around individuals from all walks of life.

Since you are so tolerant of all people, you have never made a disparaging remark about a persons race, sex, sexual orientation, religion, etc. That is a big blanket statement there that you are tolerant of ALL people. Or are you just comfortable around people that you deem acceptable. Would you be accepting of someone who doesnt feel the same way as you about homosexuals?