Trainers Required at Games

by **Pinball** on Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:21 am

At SJU the trainers are not allowed to touch any club sport athlete because of insurance reasons. We can get ice and what not but thats about all. If someone is seriously hurt we can call the EMT's and they promise a quick response (under 5min). What is the NCAA rule about this?

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by **LaxRef** on Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:57 am

Pinball wrote:At SJU the trainers are not allowed to touch any club sport athlete because of insurance reasons. We can get ice and what not but thats about all. If someone is seriously hurt we can call the EMT's and they promise a quick response (under 5min). What is the NCAA rule about this?

There is no NCAA lacrosse rule about this, although there may be a general NCAA rule applying to all sports. However, I have a hard time believing they'd force schools to pay for a trainer for bowling or shooting.

by **Sonny** on Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:00 am

Pinball wrote:At SJU the trainers are not allowed to touch any club sport athlete because of insurance reasons. We can get ice and what not but thats about all. If someone is seriously hurt we can call the EMT's and they promise a quick response (under 5min). What is the NCAA rule about this?

Does the school prevent your team from hiring trainers on your own (or arranging for student trainers to volunteer to work your home games)?

by **bullhighutewoozgriffclam** on Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:12 am

The Utes are traveling to Logan to play Utah State today and their trainer has to leave at halftime so they are going to provide a nurse that will be there just incase. This incident has taken it's toll. Hopefully for the better.

by **Dan Wishengrad** on Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:24 am

Our experience at Washington is identical to the one Pinball describes. Athletic Trainers are for ICA (Athletic Dept) sports exclusively, and are not allowed to work club sports. They would get in trouble if they were to volunteer in an official capacity to work as Trainers at our games.

But we are assigned certified First Aiders for our home games, which the IMA (Club Sports Dept.) pays for. This year Ms. Katie Fellows worked almost all our games including the entire H.I.T. tourney. She is very competent and, well, at the risk of sounding entirely inappropriate let me just add she is a stunningly beautiful young woman. I can't fathom how not even one lacrosse player this year has faked stopping breathing in order to get mouth-to-mouth from Ms. Fellows. :lol:

I have also arranged for an M.D. to cover all our home games as well, through the Medical Fellowship Program at Northwest Spine & Sports Physicians. My cousin, Dr. Andrew Cole, is the Medical Director of NWSSP and has made coverage of Husky Lacrosse a required part of the Fellowship. In this regard our club is incredibly fortunate. These doctors are sports medicine specialists, and they work on professional athletes regularly.

Let me publicly thank Dr. Nelson Hager, NWSPP Fellowship Director, again here, for assigning these Medical Fellows. Thanks also to the doctors who have worked Husky Lax games in 2006: Dr. Allison Stout, M.D.; Dr. Garrett Hyman, M.D.; Dr. Irene Young, M.D.; and Dr. Lew Packia Raj, M.D.

by **Sonny** on Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:26 am

Dan Wishengrad wrote:Our experience at Washington is identical to the one Pinball describes. Athletic Trainers are for ICA (Athletic Dept) sports exclusively, and are not allowed to work club sports. They would get in trouble if they were to volunteer in an official capacity to work as Trainers at our games.

But they don't prevent your club from hiring medical trainers on your own or soliciting volunteers, correct?

by **Dan Wishengrad** on Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:28 am

No, Sonny , they do not. But they can't be UW Athletic Trainers.

But i feel that the combination of a certified First Aider AND a an M.D. who specializes in Sports Medicine is more than adequate coverage. Don't you?

by **Sonny** on Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:32 am

Dan Wishengrad wrote:No, Sonny , they do not. But they can't be UW Athletic Trainers.

But i feel that the combination of a certified First Aider AND a an M.D. who specializes in Sports Medicine is more than adequate coverage. Don't you?

Sure, but that's not for me to decide.

It's amazing to me that some schools look to attempt to limit their liability by not letting school (varsity) trainers work club events. Regardless, that shouldn't limit individual MDIA teams from finding alternate trainers, doctors, etc off campus.

Also note that many student trainers have to volunteer X amount of hours each week to get certified and lacrosse games/practices are a great way for them to get their "hours in."

by **Dan Wishengrad** on Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:37 am

Sonny wrote:It's amazing to me that some schools look to attempt to limit their liability by not letting school (varsity) trainers work club events. Regardless, that shouldn't limit individual MDIA teams from finding alternate trainers, doctors, etc off campus.

I wholeheartedly agree!

Some of our PNCLL teams (Simon Fraser and Whitman come to to mind) even travel with Trainers. They are very fortunate. I believe Washington is, however, the only team in our conference that is fortunate enough to have specialized M.D.s in attendance at games.

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