Where are the Maryland club teams?

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Postby Sonny on Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:20 pm

onpoint wrote: The other point of contetion is this: What's the real motiviation to move to varsity? I know it's hindsight, but I would not trade my years at CSU for any time on a mediocre DI team's roster. And frankly, the vast majority of teams that do go DI will be mediocre at best for a long time. People always talk about location and how FSU (for example) would draw recruits very well, but the bottom line is that the best players in the country are still going to go to the same four or five DI schools that they always have. Syracuse, Princeton, Johns Hopkins etc. are THE destination for a top notch DI prospect.


Maybe, maybe not Alex. Based on that logic Army would have played Yale in the Orange Bowl last month. Things evolve and the sport changes, for better or worse.

If major Southern & Western 1-A schools added full-funded varsity programs, I guarantee they wouldn't have any trouble recruiting away talented players from relatively "no-name" Division 1, 2, or 3 programs. Syracuse & Princeton might not have any recruiting problems. But schools like UMBC, Loyola, Sacred Heart, Albany, Hartford, & Butler will have problems going up against varsity programs at places like Florida State, Texas, Michigan, UCLA, Oregon, Arizona, etc.
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Postby Dulax31 on Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:55 pm

onpoint wrote: People always talk about location and how FSU (for example) would draw recruits very well, but the bottom line is that the best players in the country are still going to go to the same four or five DI schools that they always have. Syracuse, Princeton, Johns Hopkins etc. are THE destination for a top notch DI prospect.


I dont know if I would totally agree with that statement, If the right coach went to FSU such as a coach like a John Desko, I would feel that he wouldnt have any problem recruiting player to come to a campus like FSU even though its not a traditionally great lacrosse school. *insert dumb comment here* :?
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Postby CATLAX MAN on Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:09 pm

Dulax31 wrote:
onpoint wrote: You see that in college basketball, such as Louisville coach Patino. Louisville wasnt a good basketball program before he came. :?


Uhh, I guess you never heard of Coach Denny Crum. Did you forget about some of the great teams he had over the years with Darrell Griffith, "Never Nervous Pervis" Ellison & others? By the way, they had a CAT on their team last year, Luke Whitehead.
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Postby Bluevelvet on Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:19 pm

Dulax31 wrote: You see that in college basketball, such as Louisville coach Patino. Louisville wasnt a good basketball program before he came. :?

Oh, yes it was. Louisville was a perennial contender for the final 4 in NCAA basketball under Denny Crum and before that
They made the final 4 in 1959, 1972, 1975, 1982, 1983. Mostly, under Denny Crum. They have never made the final 4 under Patino.
I agree that FSU will have a tough time getting the top recruits for lacrosse. They will get D1 recruits, but not the top ones. This switch to D1 varsity for FSU if it happens at all, is not even scheduled to begin until 2010. I think the FSU basketball team is a better example than Louisville. They get some good ACC players, but not the best.



Great minds think alike, Catlaxman. You beat me to the punch because I was looking up Louisville's final 4 appearances.
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Postby CATLAX MAN on Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:34 pm

Bluevelvet wrote:Great minds think alike, Catlaxman.


This is a scary thought.

Bluevelvet wrote:You beat me to the punch because I was looking up Louisville's final 4 appearances.


Always the researcher. It's usually only necessary to point out the CATs on someone's team. 8)
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Postby Tim Gray on Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:43 pm

Brent Burns wrote:I am pretty sure that there are several laxers from Maryland playing on several USL MDIA teams these days. I also want to refer to Rob Graff's humorous comment about the best players are from Long Island, and I am sure there are several Long Islanders playing on several USL MDIA teams.

It would be interesting to do a head count on Marylanders and Long Islanders on any USL MDIA teams. 8)


We have 5 from Strong Island (6 if you count me) and 15 total from NY (which is more than we have from MA). Zero from MD.
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Postby Dulax31 on Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:53 pm

CATLAX MAN wrote:
Dulax31 wrote:
onpoint wrote: You see that in college basketball, such as Louisville coach Patino. Louisville wasnt a good basketball program before he came. :?


Uhh, I guess you never heard of Coach Denny Crum. Did you forget about some of the great teams he had over the years with Darrell Griffith, "Never Nervous Pervis" Ellison & others? By the way, they had a CAT on their team last year, Luke Whitehead.


Very Bad example on my part, I was just trying to think of something quick, but the main point I was trying to make is that a respected coach can make a program good. The better example would have been Bobby Knight going to Texas Tech. They just took down the #2 team in the nation kansas.

Bluevelvet wrote:Oh, yes it was. Louisville was a perennial contender for the final 4 in NCAA basketball under Denny Crum and before that
They made the final 4 in 1959, 1972, 1975, 1982, 1983. Mostly, under Denny Crum. They have never made the final 4 under Patino.


dont be so hard on Patino, he has only been there for a few years, They are getting better. He still has time to make it to a Final 4.
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Postby Danny Hogan on Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:19 pm

onpoint wrote:The other point of contetion is this: What's the real motiviation to move to varsity? I know it's hindsight, but I would not trade my years at CSU for any time on a mediocre DI team's roster.


I've said that a thousand times. If i had to do it all over again, i would make the exact same choices.
You gotta enjoy the USLIA for what it is. Its not going to be varsity and if any teams ever do go varsity, it wont' be the IA team getting moved up. It'll be (mostly) all new faces.

I actualy had the pleasure of playing against Washington & Lee last night with my mens club team. They were very good. But at no point did i ever for a second wish that i had played D3 instead of USLIA.
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Postby bkrownd on Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:11 pm

wakelacrosse wrote:I think Frostburg may be the only team in Maryland that does not have a varsity program.


Baltimore and Morgan State dropped their programs around 1980. I'm sure there are a few more w/o varsity.
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