Hazing-Marquette Lacrosse

by **Bluevelvet** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:35 pm

Marquette's lacrosse team suspended after alleged hazing
Centre Daily Times - 15 hours ago
BY MEGAN TWOHEY. MILWAUKEE - The men's lacrosse team at Marquette University has been suspended for a year after the administration determined that hazing occurred at a party involving beer, bongs and thongs. ...

http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/nation/13176332.htm

Is this true?

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by **mholtz** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:21 pm

Its attributed to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, which is the largest local paper in Milwaukee, so I would guess it is true.

Not good news for them.

by **John Paul** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:30 pm

Matt, my friend, don't ever assume anything you read or see in any media outlet is true.

(Not a comment on this incident.)

by **Danny Hogan** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:39 pm

"Terry Dale said he shared the photos after coming across them on www.webshots.com. He said he participated in both sides of hazing while serving in a fraternity at Marquette. Since graduating, he has determined that hazing is dangerous and wrong. He now feels so strongly about the practice that he searches the Internet for evidence of hazing"

not condoning hazing, but duuuude...get a life.

by **LaxRef** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:47 pm

Danny Hogan wrote:not condoning hazing, but duuuude...get a life.

We all have different objective functions. I'm sure there are a lot of people that would tell us to get a life if told that we spend time posting on internet message boards.

by **mholtz** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:49 pm

John Paul wrote:Matt, my friend, don't ever assume anything you read or see in any media outlet is true.

(Not a comment on this incident.)

But it's on the internet... It must be true.

But seriously, you are right, John, but I guess my point is that this story isn't from the National Enquirer, or some fly by night paper. It's from a well known, reputable paper.

by **Danny Hogan** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:57 pm

LaxRef wrote:
Danny Hogan wrote:not condoning hazing, but duuuude...get a life.

We all have different objective functions. I'm sure there are a lot of people that would tell us to get a life if told that we spend time posting on internet message boards.

first thing i thought of after i hit submit.....how about he's just a huge hypocrite

by **CSmizzle** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:03 pm

first thing i thought of after i hit submit.....how about he's just a huge hypocrite

How many people have done things at 21 that they thought were a good idea, only to turn around later and realize how horribly wrong they were? He's admitting his past to help prevent it from becoming the futre.

by **Danny Hogan** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:23 pm

CSmizzle wrote:
first thing i thought of after i hit submit.....how about he's just a huge hypocrite

How many people have done things at 21 that they thought were a good idea, only to turn around later and realize how horribly wrong they were? He's admitting his past to help prevent it from becoming the futre.

the future of what? people he doesn't know in a situation he judged by looking at photos. what a hero.

by **uwmlax2** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:52 pm

It is infact true that Marquette has been suspended. I talked to one of the players at the GLLC league meeting a few weeks back. They are playing in the GLLC this year so yes it is true.

by **Sonny** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:56 pm

uwmlax2 wrote:It is infact true that Marquette has been suspended. I talked to one of the players at the GLLC league meeting a few weeks back. They are playing in the GLLC this year so yes it is true.

How are they able to play period (in any league)?

If the article is true, they are suspended from all club activities. From the article:

MILWAUKEE - The men's lacrosse team at Marquette University has been suspended for a year after the administration determined that hazing occurred at a party involving beer, bongs and thongs.

Father Andrew Thon, Marquette's vice president of student affairs, said that the university decided to cancel the club team's spring season and suspend it as a student organization after holding a conduct hearing last month.

by **LaxRef** on Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:43 pm

I don't know their situation. However, wouldn't it be possible for the guys from the team to form a "new," non-university lacrosse club and play games against whoever they could get to play them? Of course, they'd be out of luck when it came to University field space for games and practice, University funding and transportation, etc., but the guys could probably still play lacrosse.

Then again, if they did that, the University might tell them to get stuffed next year, when presumably they'd like to be an "official" club again.

by **Sonny** on Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:49 am

LaxRef wrote:Then again, if they did that, the University might tell them to get stuffed next year, when presumably they'd like to be an "official" club again.

By god, I think he's got it.

by **Jolly Roger** on Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:12 pm

"Terry Dale said he shared the photos after coming across them on www.webshots.com .... He now feels so strongly about the practice that he searches the Internet for evidence of hazing"

So what were the search criteria for Mr Dale? Young men....thongs....alcohol.......

Somebody'd better check to see if he is or was ever ordained.

I think Marquette should have some IT people examine Mr Dale's hard drive before they go overboard.

by **SMSlax** on Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:55 am

Man, that sounds pretty funy to me. Of course, that comes from a kid still in college with no possible understanding of real life or the inherent dangers of thongs. To be sure, I've never actually worn a thong, especially at a social gathering but it seems that there is little harm done in such hilarious and unharmful (except unintentional cases of frostbite to the unmentionables) team moments. I don't condone forced consumption of alcohol or pressured acceptence of any unwanted acts, but if none of these players cared... call me what you will, but if we can't be college kids with no harm done, then what is college for? I'll be 40 and regret my mistakes then, but I'll have to make my 21 year old mistakes first.
Please don't respond with academic assertions; I hope you understood the context of my question, which was rhetorical to begin with.