Comparing "Virtual Varsity" to real varsity.

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Postby Zeuslax on Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:12 pm

The top of the CCLA B can compete with the lower finishing A teams (last season). The disparity is still large, but the gap is closing. However, the mid level CCLA A teams would not have a problem with any of the B teams. (last season) Some of the teams new to A because of the DI football ruling would still seem to be the exception to the rule.
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Postby Catlax on Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:36 pm

For What it's worth, I think there are two major differences between MDIA teams and scholarship varsity teams. The first is depth of talent. I agree with many who have posted that there are some MDIA athletes that could play anywhere. But most MDIA teams have players that put the ball on the ground a lot.
That is point number two. As you look at games between MDIA teams and compare them (going up) to DIII, DII and DI, the game is played in the air (more) at each successive level. Also, the transition game is faster at higher levels.

Now if you look at non-scholarship NCAA programs, that difference falls off significantly. JMHO
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Postby TrojanLaxman5 on Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:17 pm

Danny Hogan wrote:
comatose wrote:I don't want to sound rude, but everyone has a walk on offer at any school they can get into. If I applied to Syracuse and wasn't recruited, then I would have a walk on opportunity there."


i was thinking the same thing. but he may have meant he was recruited but not offered a scholarship.


As far as I understand, he was recruited which directly resulted in his admission to JHU and was invited by the coach to walk on to the team. It's not just that he got into Hopkins and decided he could walk on...
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Postby Danny Hogan on Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:09 pm

thats what i figured, he was basically guaranteed a spot on the team, but i guess anyone who is not on scholarship is considered a walk on.
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Postby comatose on Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:21 pm

Zeuslax wrote:The top of the CCLA B can compete with the lower finishing A teams (last season). The disparity is still large, but the gap is closing. However, the mid level CCLA A teams would not have a problem with any of the B teams. (last season) Some of the teams new to A because of the DI football ruling would still seem to be the exception to the rule.


Are any matchups going to occur this year, or did any occur last year between one teams in CCLA A and the other in CCLA B? Is it a lack of numbers for the CCLA B teams or a lack of talent?

Did matchups like this occur elsewhere in the USLIA?
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Postby Sonny on Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:23 pm

Editor's note comatose (and others) - It's MDIA (not USLIA)! I know it's tough to break old habits, but please try to use the correct term in the future. Thanks.
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Postby lil lady lax fan on Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:45 pm

There are quite a few B teams in the WCLL who play the A teams.
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Postby OAKS on Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:31 pm

comatose wrote:Division 1 versus any teams in the D2/D3 doesn't happen anymore during the spring season. Sometimes it takes place in Fall ball, but as many know that's not indicative of how they'll do during the season, and if those programs are compatible.


W&L plays VMI every year (VMI finally won for the first time in a while this past year). Most D1 teams won't play D2 or D3 teams because of the NCAA scheduling rules.
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Postby PigPen on Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:47 pm

Speed-in my experience I have seen that the athletes at the DI level, or close to it (the Salisburys, NYTechs,etc), seem to have guys that can fly. Forget the sport, if you are athletic and can run real fast, coaches will find you. MDIA teams may have one or two speedsters (I remember Santa Clara two years ago had a guy that was like the Flash), but the DI one schools are loaded with them, from top to bottom. Look at any college sport, it all starts with speed.
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Postby LaxRef on Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:33 pm

PigPen wrote:Look at any college sport, it all starts with speed.


I believe amphetamines are banned by the NCAA in all sports. :D
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Postby Gregg Pathiakis on Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:23 pm

comatose wrote:
Zeuslax wrote:The top of the CCLA B can compete with the lower finishing A teams (last season). The disparity is still large, but the gap is closing. However, the mid level CCLA A teams would not have a problem with any of the B teams. (last season) Some of the teams new to A because of the DI football ruling would still seem to be the exception to the rule.


Are any matchups going to occur this year, or did any occur last year between one teams in CCLA A and the other in CCLA B? Is it a lack of numbers for the CCLA B teams or a lack of talent?

Did matchups like this occur elsewhere in the USLIA?


Last year in the PCLL, all Div. B teams played 6 or 7 games against Div. A teams and all Div. A teams played 2 or 3 Div. B teams. In all but one game, the Div. A team handily beat the Div. B team. This year, due to the growth of both A and B, any cross-division games are going to be extra. I think only four or five games are currently scheduled.
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Postby BearcatLax on Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:41 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't U. San Diego (B Div and champion) play UC- San Diego (A Div national playoff team) and only lose by 3? That is a rare case and I think USD is far and away better than it's B counterparts, but it happened.
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Postby mholtz on Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:30 am

comatose wrote:
Zeuslax wrote:The top of the CCLA B can compete with the lower finishing A teams (last season). The disparity is still large, but the gap is closing. However, the mid level CCLA A teams would not have a problem with any of the B teams. (last season) Some of the teams new to A because of the DI football ruling would still seem to be the exception to the rule.


Are any matchups going to occur this year, or did any occur last year between one teams in CCLA A and the other in CCLA B? Is it a lack of numbers for the CCLA B teams or a lack of talent?

Did matchups like this occur elsewhere in the USLIA?


We played Taylor last year. They were #21 laxpower in MDIA-B, and we beat them 15-0.
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Postby DanGenck on Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:15 am

St. John's (USL-MDIA B) defeated Wisconsin- Stevens Point (USL-MDIA A) 8-6 last season. UWSP had played in the league semi-finals the previous year.

Of course, this is from the UMLL not the CCLA... but I figured I'd share anyway.
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Postby Zeuslax on Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:52 am

No doubt in my opinion that the discrepancy from A to B is huge in the CCLA. Saw a lot of games with teams that finished near the bottom of the A division. To say that MSU is near the bottom of the CCLA-A would be a little exagerated. I think across the league (both A & B), teams play up and down to the level of competition.

Not sure about scheduling of A vs. B games?
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