Noel Devine

[FormerTiger]

Ok....hate to burst some bubbles....but being that I go to LSU, we have the skinny on the football recruits.

This kid is apparently trouble. He is not even a senior yet, he has at least one kid, and his GPA is close to non existant. Its a damned shame, but one of our coaches said the other day in a recruiting meeting that this kid is on the fast track to not even going to JC.

But like I said...just what I heard. But I can confirm the kid and GPA thing

[Danny Hogan]

He is not even a senior yet, he has at least one kid, and his GPA is close to non existant. Its a damned shame, but one of our coaches said the other day in a recruiting meeting that this kid is on the fast track to not even going to JC.

he has FSU written all over him

[laxfan25]

And why wouldn't Miami be putting the all-out recruiting blitz on him?
It really is a shame if he thinks his exploits on the field are going to give him a free pass into college. Maybe Neon Deion can put a little sense in him before it's too late.

[jessexy]

Ok....hate to burst some bubbles....but being that I go to LSU, we have the skinny on the football recruits.

This kid is apparently trouble. He is not even a senior yet, he has at least one kid, and his GPA is close to non existant. Its a damned shame, but one of our coaches said the other day in a recruiting meeting that this kid is on the fast track to not even going to JC.

But like I said...just what I heard. But I can confirm the kid and GPA thing

he sounds perfect for the SEC. surely he'll land at Auburn, Bama, LSU, Florida, Georgia, S. Carolina..... who have all ben non NCAA sanctions in the past 10 years. (except S. carolina, but they have Spurrier now, which qualifies them).

[byualum]

And why wouldn't Miami be putting the all-out recruiting blitz on him?
It really is a shame if he thinks his exploits on the field are going to give him a free pass into college. Maybe Neon Deion can put a little sense in him before it's too late.

Why would he think otherwise? We've proven in society that we don't really care what a kid does away from the field as long has he can break tackles/shoot 3-pointers/hit a baseball...

Very rarely do we hold athletes accountable for their off-field actions if they can still help our team win. The examples are too numerous to list...

[AlumniLax]

he sounds perfect for the SEC. surely he'll land at Auburn, Bama, LSU, Florida, Georgia, S. Carolina..... who have all ben non NCAA sanctions in the past 10 years. (except S. carolina, but they have Spurrier now, which qualifies them).

haha. you make me laugh. a&m under coach frannie will have its problems as well my friend. ohh yea, come talk to me about the all mighty and perfect big 1(2) when your football team can actually beat someone, ie texas and ou.

byu alum, is there something wrong with prof. athletes behaving badly and getting special treatment? i think not.

[laxfan25]

And why wouldn't Miami be putting the all-out recruiting blitz on him?
It really is a shame if he thinks his exploits on the field are going to give him a free pass into college. Maybe Neon Deion can put a little sense in him before it's too late.

Why would he think otherwise? We've proven in society that we don't really care what a kid does away from the field as long has he can break tackles/shoot 3-pointers/hit a baseball...

Very rarely do we hold athletes accountable for their off-field actions if they can still help our team win. The examples are too numerous to list...

I agree with your point completely. Usually though they have to get into college first before they REALLY start screwing up and get away with it.

On a lacrosse note, there is a goalie in my area for a newer team who has just been excellent, one of the best I've seen. At his last game I asked his coach where he was going, since he could probably paly just about anywhere. The coach said "he's not. His GPA is about 1.5" He also said that the goalie had gone to a clinic and someone from Duke was there asking about him. The coach had to break the news that he wasn't Duke material,a t least for lacrosse. The coach then pointed to the stands and said "See that guy there? He's a Marine recruiter, and he's joining the Marines." My heart sank a little, and after the game I wished the goalie much luck and told him what a pleasure it had been to ref him for the last four years. I hope he gets his act together and can come back and play MDIA after his military duty.

[DanGenck]

he sounds perfect for the SEC. surely he'll land at Auburn, Bama, LSU, Florida, Georgia, S. Carolina..... who have all ben non NCAA sanctions in the past 10 years. (except S. carolina, but they have Spurrier now, which qualifies them).

haha. you make me laugh. a&m under coach frannie will have its problems as well my friend. ohh yea, come talk to me about the all mighty and perfect big 1(2) when your football team can actually beat someone, ie texas and ou.

byu alum, is there something wrong with prof. athletes behaving badly and getting special treatment? i think not.

I was talking with someone the other day about if the SEC, Big 10 or Big 12 has the best programs. We both stopped for a moment and pondered how the best team in the country is actually from the Pac-10...

5 seasons ago, the Pac-10 was the joke of college football (See Street and Smith's article about the hiring of Pete Carroll. The article also says that because of poor facilities and a dumpy school that Carroll would never get recruits to play there!). All of a sudden, the conference has won two straight national championships and almost put two teams in the BCS this season.

It may be interesting to note as well, since the BCS inception-

1998- Tennessee (SEC)
1999- Florida State (ACC)
2000- Oklahoma (Big 12)
2001- Miami (Big East)
2002- Ohio State (Big Ten) (Though Miami should have won this game)
2003- LSU (SEC) and USC (Pac 10)
2004- USC (Pac 10)

So... National Championships by conference...

SEC- 2
Pac 10- 2
ACC- 1 (Runner-Up Twice)
Big East- 1 (Runner-Up Twice)
Big 12- 1 (Runner-Up Three Times)
Big Ten- 1

A pretty even split...

[byualum]

byu alum, is there something wrong with prof. athletes behaving badly and getting special treatment? i think not.

I never said there was anything wrong with it...I just pointed out that we've conditioned athletes to expect special treatment at a very young age.

[bste_lax]

So... National Championships by conference...

SEC- 2
Pac 10- 2
ACC- 1 (Runner-Up Twice)
Big East- 1 (Runner-Up Twice)
Big 12- 1 (Runner-Up Three Times)
Big Ten- 1

A pretty even split...

Take USC from the Pac 10 and they were are pretty weak (California did NOT make a BCS Bowl last season although they did deserve to go but I think they were a 1 year wonder and don't see them doing it again)

The Big East is real weak now.

4 teams have been Top 10 BCS teams the last 3 years.

USC
Oklahoma
Iowa
Georgia

[StrykerFSU]

I sure hope he comes to FSU...grades not good enough you say? Surely you jest. A fine academic institution such as FSU would never discriminate against a potential football player on the basis of something as unimportant to future life success. And have no fear Gator/Canes fans, Jeff Bowden is more than happy to stifle a talent like this one.

Now if we could only get "God" out of the hospital to hand him the ball...

[DanGenck]

So... National Championships by conference...

SEC- 2
Pac 10- 2
ACC- 1 (Runner-Up Twice)
Big East- 1 (Runner-Up Twice)
Big 12- 1 (Runner-Up Three Times)
Big Ten- 1

A pretty even split...

Take USC from the Pac 10 and they were are pretty weak (California did NOT make a BCS Bowl last season although they did deserve to go but I think they were a 1 year wonder and don't see them doing it again)

The Big East is real weak now.

4 teams have been Top 10 BCS teams the last 3 years.

USC
Oklahoma
Iowa
Georgia

The Big East is weak now, but it will be hot in about 5-7 years. UConn, Louisville, Pittsburgh and West Virginia are all growing every year. Recruits are going there because of good facilities and playing time, and the schools are paying big money for coaches now (Randy Edsall at UConn is getting $850,000 base salary this year, and I would imagine that Rich Rodriguez at WVU will match that).

The key will be if last season's Louisville vs. Miami game was a fluke or not. If Louisville is consistently good enough to run with Miami, then the Big East could be a threat again for the first time outside of basketball. But like I said... not for about 5 years.

Also- I think that Jim Tedford at California is a great coach. Their program should be able to maintain, but the question is if they can get up to Oklahoma, Iowa, USC and Georgia level in the BCS. I agree with Matt, probably not...

The Pac-10 could be good again if Washington, UCLA and Oregon can ever get their acts together. I have a feeling that those programs have too big of names to stay down for long...

In short, maybe we should start a college football discussion in the water cooler?

[tlaing1]

I believe that if you give USC a share of the National Title in 2003 I think that Auburn should also have a share in 04. If only Auburn would've cried a bit more and had an easier schedule they would've gotten their share.

[FormerTiger]

[quote]Now if we could only get "God" out of the hospital to hand him the ball...


HAHAHA .....I forgot about that. I bet Kellen Winslow is mad he didnt come up with that "god" line first.

I agree that there are some dark horses that are on the rise out there. (WV, Louisville, maybe Southern Miss, Boise State)

What the MDIA really needs is a "BSC like"....since everyone in the league is really easy going, and never complains....it is bound to work really well.

[DanGenck]

I believe that if you give USC a share of the National Title in 2003 I think that Auburn should also have a share in 04. If only Auburn would've cried a bit more and had an easier schedule they would've gotten their share.

did anyone end up naming auburn their national champion? i know there are like 15 organizations/publications that name a national champ.

USC received the National Championship in 2003 from the media. Auburn received no such championship in 2004.

I believe the rule is that the coaches poll must elect the BCS champion as the national champion, but the ESPN/USA Today Poll is not held to such standards.