EMORY ELIGIBILITY??????

[UNCC Prez]

Its possible that Emory has played their entire season with ineligible players, not accusing- just saying its a possibility.
Eligibility sheets were supposed to be in weeks ago, and Emory's werent, now they are sitting in spot #4 for the division B playoffs?
When are we going to discipline this team?

Why is it that deadlines were imposed on all teams, and every other team got the forms in except for emory, and there was no discipline of the Emory team? They played an entire season of lacrosse without having a certified roster to check players against.

Now they are sitting in the last spot for the division B playoffs!

Does anyone else see something wrong with this...i wish i had known there would have been no problems with us not getting our roster in on time, i wouldnt have gone crazy trying to get it in, and maybe i would have thrown a couple post collegiate players in to give us an egde.

If you are going to impose deadlines you have to enforce them. Emory was just let back into the league this year, promised to do everything right, they missed the deadline, and you gave them a break and some other team's spot in the playoffs.

Someone help me wrap my head around this.

[Kevin OBrien]

I'm not sure if their eligibility status is any of your concern. *We* do not punish teams or make sure teams are eligible, it's the job of the XC to apply fines, etc. There were issues with a bunch of teams, not just Emory, ranging from eligibility forms, dues, etc. Everything will be handled by the XC, be sure of that.

Just FYI, they turned in the old form, not the new one. The issue is being handled.

Finally, I think you're confusing your teams. Vanderbilt was just let back in this year. Emory has been a member for quite awhile, at least since '98 when I became involved with the SELC. They moved down a division due to new guidelines.

If you'd like further information or accusations, I'd suggest you emailing me privately to discuss your concerns. This is not the way to bring up or discuss this type of problem.

[LaxLuthor]

I think UNCC has a right to know what is up...they brought it up earlier and got no response...

[Sonny]

I think UNCC has a right to know what is up...they brought it up earlier and got no response...

sure they do. Offline, as Kevin stated above.

[Ken Lovic]

Once again people, you have to trust the SELC Exec Board and the MDIA board. Elig issues are a national thing, not a league thing. Maybe you should ask the right person next time. We were fully aware of some shortfalls on a few teams that are play off eligible and addressed them as a exec. board. All of them have been cleared (for a number of various reasons) and are fine for post season play. believe me when I say we are not a group this year that is being easy on anyone as you will find out in the fall meeting.

If you want answers contact the Exec Board directly or wait until the fall meeting. There were some fines to a few teams for a number of reasons but nothing that eliminated anyone from post season play.

[Leachmtb]

Why is this a private issue, and the supposed issues with Vanderbilt and USC were so public? Weren't they all questioning the Exec Board's authority? I'm not saying that this shouldn't be a private issue, just that the Vanderbilt and USC issues should have been private as well.

[Kevin OBrien]

Why is this a private issue, and the supposed issues with Vanderbilt and USC were so public? Weren't they all questioning the Exec Board's authority? I'm not saying that this shouldn't be a private issue, just that the Vanderbilt and USC issues should have been private as well.

The issue isn't something as clear cut as missed games, it's eligiblity issues which no one has access to the answer but xc. A team that forfiets in my personal opinion (especially more than once in a season) reaps what they sow, even if it's strangers bashing them on the internet. The XC didn't come on and say we were going to sock Vandy or USC with $x.xx fine. The message board is seperate from the workings of the SELC, as it should be. This question (how is Emory eligible) isn't the same as the other one (why is team x not showing up). In addition, it didn't seem that the post that started this thread was very unbiased in the first place....

This message board isn't where the SELC holds it's meetings and makes it's judgements, although that would save me a 4 hour drive come the fall...

[Ken Lovic]

If you look back there was no discussion from the Exec Board on the Vandy and USC issues either. Just a lot of opinions thrown around by various people.

[Choppy49er]

Maybe the comment was biased, but doesn't that give way to personal interest? If the Emory would have been forfeited, we would have gone to the play-offs. I think every team would have concern if they were in that position.

How can an issue be private when Gregg has an entire page dedicated to letting us know (for our own benefit) of who has defined their eligability by complying with the rules. (not at any fault to Gregg- i have great respect for him, and the whole USLIA crew)

It seems to me that a deadline was set, and then moved back. Posted on the page was a periodically updated list of which teams had turned in their forms, complying with the league mandates.

Gregg said, being the NATIONAL Div. B eligability coordinator, " If this form is not received by Friday, March 25, teams will be forced to forfeit games. " In my opionon if a team (like emory persay) did not turn their forms in by March 25 (which, from my understanding, they did not)... then their next game(s) should be forfeited.

Having that not happen just seems a little odd.

Of course you would punish them. It was said any team that did not turn the forms in on time would be punish. No mention of fines was made available to the teams. Only forfetiting games. Which did not occur.

It just does not seem fair to every other team in the league who worked and made an effort to get their forms in on time. Is that not the whole point of punishment?

The other concept raised- was what would stop any team from using illegal/inelgiable players during the year, if they have the majority of the season to have an opportunity to do so. THat is a topic that may best be be left to another time.

*Please, do not take this as an insult to any member of the Emory team/staff. All the guys i met when we played were great guys. I also mean nothing agianst the USLIA or SELC, who all do a great job that i am thankful we have them. But I must back up my teammate and freind. His view is valid and just, I support his statements.

[Kevin OBrien]

Gregg's thread was to make individual teams aware. A lot of teams had trouble this year, and half the season should've been forfeited. As I already mentioned, they had an old form turned in. Due to miscommunications, multiple teams did.

Also, by my (quck and perhaps incorrect) math, SCAD was next in line...

As I already mentioned, this is not a topic fit for discussion on this message board. Also as I already mentioned, feel free to email me if you have any concerns.