CCLA - A seedings

[Grant Neeley]

Looks like the 5 and 6 seeds are set by my tally.

Both are 3 -3 with Buffalo winning the head to head.

# 5 Buffalo
# 6 CMU

[John Paul]

So Western Michigan cannot also finish 3-3? Aren't they 2-3 right now?

What is the seeding process if two teams end up tied at the top and have not played each other? It's possible that either Michigan or Michigan State could end up 6-0, along with Pittsburgh if they win out on their side. Do we go to overall MDIA record? Overall record? Goals allowed? Goal differential?

Obviously there are still games to play to figure out some of this stuff, but if you could post the process and the possible outcomes Grant, that would be great. It would also add some interest to this week if everyone knew exactly what they were playing for.

[mholtz]

the Western/Pitt score wasn't posted. Is there an update on this?

[Grant Neeley]

Haven't seen a Western - Pitt score either.
However, Western lost to both CMU and Buffalo - so they would lose in a head to head tiebreak situation even with a 3-3 record.

[pittlaxx]

Pitt 7
WMU 6

Western played hard but we were able to pull out a close win.

[Grant Neeley]

1. Record in required CCLA games
2. Head-to-head record
3. Goal Differential

This is the formula used last year and will be used this year since no change was voted on during the fall meeting per the CCLA By-laws.

[mholtz]

Is the head to head only in required games?

[Cousin17]

Hopefully not. That would be bad if a team won a head to head meeting with someone their tied with but get seeded lower because of goal differential. If the head to head only counts for required games it should come after goal differential.

[Grant Neeley]

Head to head is exactly what it means.
If two teams played a non-required game we would use the head to head to break the tie between them.
Obviously this had the potential to resolve an Oakland-Pitt tie, however Pitt is undefeated in their required schedule so that instance is moot.

[ACE]

Is there a copy of the bylaws online somewhere? Just a what if question on how you seed according to goal differential. The high school league that I coach in has a 3 way tie with no head to head supremacy and the tie breaker rules weren't written too clearly. Just curious how it would be done in the CCLA if this would happen. Might help us to rewrite our league bylaws.

[Grant Neeley]

Not in the CCLA by-laws. We set the rules at the fall meeting. Check out the GRLC, I believe their by-laws are on line and have their procedure.

As a side note, the SELC uses Goals Allowed (I believe) to discourage running up the score.

[mholtz]

Ok, I believe I used the correct tie breaker (Goal differential in conference games/8 goal limit).

The Michgian/Michigan State game is the only remaining game that has any bearings on the CCLA playoff picture.

If Michigan wins that game, they get the #1 seed at 6-0 with a goal differential of 40 plus whatever they might win against MSU with. Pitt has a goal diff of 25. That makes it:

1. Michigan (6-0)
2. Pittsburgh (6-0)
3. Oakland (5-1)
4. MSU (4-2)
5. Buffalo (3-3 with defeat of central)
6. Central Mich (3-3)


If MSU wins that game, then there is a 3 way tie at 5-1 between oakland, Michgian, and MSU with each beating another once, so it would again go to the goal differential tie breaker. Michigan would have a goal diff of 40 minus their loss margin to MSU. MSU would be 10 plus their margin against UM, and Oakland would have 27, with an 8 goal cap it's impossible for MSU to catch Oakland, or for Oakland to catch Michigan. That would make it:

1. Pittsburgh (6-0)
2. Michigan (5-1)
3. Oakland (5-1)
4. MSU (5-1)
5. Buffalo
6. Central Michigan

Please correct me if I am wrong.

[oaklandlax]

Does anyone know what time playoffs are next week? I know that half the guys at Oakland have finals. We just need to find out a.s.a.p so we can talk to the school about them taking the final before or after the weekend.

[EARL THE PEARL]

how is pitt 6-0 they lost to oakland

[Grant Neeley]

Record for seedings is based on required CCLA games. Pitt-Oakland was essentially a non-conference game.