Pipes

[StrykerFSU]

aim small, miss small! and there's a reason they are called a goalie's best friend!

I don't think that I was using FSU's pipe hitting ability as an excuse for their loss. I believe I pointed to MN's domination on groundballs. I did think that hitting pipes warranted mentioning in recounting the game because I thought hitting five or six was a remarkable number. I didn't mean to take anything away from MN.

[Danny Hogan]

how has there not been a college student - pipe hitting joke yet on this thread

[laxfan25]

My favorite over the years were players saying that it hit two (or three) pipes - it should be a goal! Not!! (It's got to get to the back side first)

[LaxGuru]

When I played goal, I always felt betrayed by the pipes if the shot would hit them then deflect off me into the net. Didn't they realize I loved them!!!

[onpoint]

i gotta side with hogan on this one. Alex, Are you actually telling me that you know where you are well enough when you are out on your arc that you know when a shot is going to hit pipe or not? You are that precise to the 1/4 of an inch that determines if the ball goes pipe and bounces in or hits pipe and bounces out?

If you are hugging the pipe and it bounces out that's one thing, but from your arc, you are trying to save anything coming your way and if it hits pipe then that ball got by you and was within that fateful 1/4 of an inch of being a goal...and I guarantee not every pipe shot comes within 1/4 inch of being a save.

When I was playing my best, if I couldn't reach a shot, it did not have a chance of going in. Flip and I had a game where he would ask me if the shot I saved was on goal or not. He'd throw it to the outside of the goal and ask how far off, etc. When you are playing your arc right, you ARE that precise. So I don't know if I was within 1/4", but certainly at least within 3 inches. But if I'm standing strong and the shooter rings one off the pipe (especially in close), then I did my job by making him miss. So while all of you shooters may be of the mindset that your pipe shot beat the goalie, all goalies are thinking that they cut off the angle. Either way, a miss is a miss and I'm sending that ball the other way in a hurry if it's not in the net.

[LaxGuru]

He's right, when you get into that zone. You play your arc where it feels like the cage is an outline of your body. You know instantly upon the shooters release if it just missed or not.

[Larsen]

ok so try this argument...an attackmen scores a goal...he beat the defense and then he beat the goalie, lets say off-stick high. Now freeze that moment matrix-style. Move the trajectory of the shot out so it hits the pipe instead of going in the goal. Now the shot hits the pipe and deflects out...the goalie is still beat, the difference is the shooter, not the keeper.

[LaxGuru]

OR the goalie was just a hair out of position to allow such blasphemy.

[Purple Welt]

Mr. Hogan, even though you are a club AA, there are indeed some shooters that can change their shot to fit the situation. Maybe you think you see net, but in actuality it is imagined. i.e, "pulling the trigger" too soon. I wont take this arguement any further. I may have played most of my life, I may have played at a high level, but it is obvious that the Floridians have got the game figured out. Good Luck FSU, and welcome back coach.

[Danny Hogan]

Mr. Hogan, even though you are a club AA, there are indeed some shooters that can change their shot to fit the situation. Maybe you think you see net, but in actuality it is imagined. i.e, "pulling the trigger" too soon. I wont take this arguement any further. I may have played most of my life, I may have played at a high level, but it is obvious that the Floridians have got the game figured out. Good Luck FSU, and welcome back coach.

i wasn't speaking off personal playing experience. i have been around the game for a while myself and i even have a few friends that play in that 6-team summer league you might have heard of.

It is my opinion, maybe i should have stated it more as an opinion than fact. I dont' understand the fsu quote.

I guess i got served.

[BaylorLax4]

I agree with you completely Larsen.

[onpoint]

ok so try this argument...an attackmen scores a goal...he beat the defense and then he beat the goalie, lets say off-stick high. Now freeze that moment matrix-style. Move the trajectory of the shot out so it hits the pipe instead of going in the goal. Now the shot hits the pipe and deflects out...the goalie is still beat, the difference is the shooter, not the keeper.

But whether or not the goalie makes the save and if he "knows" if it is going to be on goal is a totally different question. If I am standing out in the middle of a field and there is an imaginary goal behind me, I can tell if shots are on or off goal, that's my argument. I'm not going to let a shot go if I think it is going to hit the pipe.

[jessexy]

i just aim for the goalie's chest and shoot as hard as i can. since i can never hit my spot, the goalie has no chance to save it. and if i dont know where my shot is going, how can the goalie?

[UofMLaxGoalie11]

aim small, miss small! and there's a reason they are called a goalie's best friend!

Yeah right. I love my nut cup way more than the pipes.

He's right, when you get into that zone. You play your arc where it feels like the cage is an outline of your body. You know instantly upon the shooters release if it just missed or not.

If he's wrong, how come goalies take off for the endline before the missed shot actually gets to them? An experienced goalie should be able to tell if a shot is wide or not, but sometimes they mess up. Thats why you want to try and stop everything thats just a little outside of the cage.

[Larsen]

I'm not going to let a shot go if I think it is going to hit the pipe.

back to danny's original point...if it hits the pipe then it beat the goalie, now you agree?