CCLA Week #1 (2/2/05 - 2/8/05)

[Mike Messina]

*NOTE*
Each week throughout the season, I will post all of that weeks games for CCLA teams. Please use these topics for all messages concerning games listed. For this week, I used schedules available at laxpower.com and information from some team's sites. If I missed any games please PM me and i will get them posted. Thanks.

CCLA week #1 (Feb. 2-Feb. 8, 2005)
Action in the CCLA kicks off this week! There are only a few USLIA games scheduled as most CCLA teams begin playing next week.

2/4 #1Calvin vs. Wisconsin-Eau Claire (neutral site)
2/5 #1Calvin vs. Bethel (neutral site)
2/5 #1Calvin vs. Wisconson-Stevens Point (neutral site, unofficial)
2/5 #1Calvin @ Northern Michigan (time shortened)

Also, there are a few scrimmages of interest.

2/5 Wittenberg(NCAA D3) @ #6Michigan
2/5 Wooster(NCAA D3) @ #6Michigan


Good Luck to all...

[John Paul]

We will not be keeping score in our scrimmages. They are half games in length, and then we're going to situational practice (EMO/MDD, Rides/Clears, etc.).

[Laxplayer]

Due to a policy of club vs varsity sports at Notre Dame, the game was cancelled. It is unfortunate but it will give us more time to prepare for the game on 2/20 against St. Vincent.

[Timbalaned]

Due to a policy of club vs varsity sports at Notre Dame, the game was cancelled. It is unfortunate but it will give us more time to prepare for the game on 2/20 against St. Vincent.

Are you serious? that is weak. What is the policy, I would have loved to see that go down. Why exactly was it cancelled?

[Sonny]

Due to a policy of club vs varsity sports at Notre Dame, the game was cancelled. It is unfortunate but it will give us more time to prepare for the game on 2/20 against St. Vincent.

Who's policy? Several club teams play NCAA teams each year. If this was a school policy, why did they schedule the game in the first place with Oakland?

[Andy Sharp]

Calvin will be playing WI-Stevens Point of the UMLL-A in a full length game at the Superior Dome of Marquette, MI, but at the request of their coach it will not be an official game.

Calvin will also have a running clock/shortened game against the hosts of the tournament, Northern Michigan University.

Here's the entire schedule of the tournament:

Friday 2/4
7 PM Northern Michigan vs WI - Platteville
8-10 PM Calvin College vs WI - Eau Claire

Saturday 2/5
9 AM Northwestern vs WI - Stevens Pt
10-12 AM Calvin College vs Bethel College
12 PM Northern Michigan vs Northwestern
1 PM WI - Eau Claire vs WI - Platteville
2-4 PM Calvin College vs WI - Stevens Pt
4 PM Northern Michigan vs Bethel College
5 PM WI - Platteville vs WI - Stevens Pt
6 PM Northern Michigan vs Calvin College
7 PM WI - Platteville vs Bethel College
8 PM Northwestern vs WI - Eau Claire

Sunday 2/6 Playoffs
10 AM 4th Ranked vs 5th Ranked
11 AM 2nd Ranked vs 3rd Ranked
12 PM 1st Ranked vs 4/5 Winner
1 PM Championship

Calvin and WI - Eau Claire will not be participating in Sunday's play-offs.

[Laxplayer]

I won't speak for Kevin Corrigan regarding his policy. Kevin and I spoke earlier in the fall, and I asked him if he would be interested in scrimmaging. Since I have a lot of history at Notre Dame and with Kevin, he said he would play.

In defense of the policy, it has been a while since Notre Dame has played a club team. In general, they do not play club or D-3 teams. But they do scrimmage varsity D-3 teams prior to their season. Kevin was under the impression that Oakland was a D-2 varsity program and accepted the scrimmage as a favor to me. Later, when he found out we were a club, he cancelled the scrimmage because of his long-standing policy.

It would have been an interesting match up for us. I was looking forward to seeing how our team would handle the higher level of play.

Instead, the cancellation will give us more time to prepare for St. Vincent (D-2) in two weeks.

[Timbalaned]

That is a shame, that would have been a good experience for you guys and it would have been cool to see how you would match up. Do a lot of schools have that policy or is it just ND?

[John Paul]

It is too bad. Playing Penn State, Bucknell and Le Moyne this fall was a great experience for us. Michigan was probably the last club team ND played, and that would have been 10-12 years ago. We used to play them, Ohio State, Michigan State (when they were D1) and a few of the Ohio D3 schools pretty regularly back in the day. Most of those were regular season games.

I'd be surprised if anyone else has a policy like that for scrimmages. More and more NCAA vs. MDIA scrimmages and games have been happening recently. Varsity teams are usually restricted by their 17 play date limitation. Obviously, if they have to choose between a scrimmage with Hopkins (to use an extreme example) or one of us, they'll probably choose Hopkins.

If anyone could have gotten it done with ND, it was Dwayne. He played there.

[Laxplayer]

I depends entirely on the coach. Notre Dame has a pretty tough schedule this year and because of the new NCAA rule (limited days of scrimmages), they are looking to get the most out of any scrimmage they have. We were suppose to scrimmage on 2/6 at 10 am. Later that day, they are going to have another scrimmage against Mercyhurst. Limited days means getting all the scrimmages you can in one day.

[John Paul]

So they are still playing that day? In that case, the day wouldn't have counted against them to add you, and they could have played their young guys against you and the older guys against Hurst. Now I am surprised they cancelled it. Who am I to say what they do obviously, but it's surprising since it wouldn't have cost them another play date.

[Mike Messina]

Its too bad the Notre Dame scrimmage is off. It would have been fun for you guys. Use the time to get ready for the Bearcats. They have an excellent team but i hope you guys (and Michigan) can take it too them. Wish i could see those games.

[mholtz]

It is too bad. Playing Penn State, Bucknell and Le Moyne this fall was a great experience for us. Michigan was probably the last club team ND played, and that would have been 10-12 years ago. We used to play them, Ohio State, Michigan State (when they were D1) and a few of the Ohio D3 schools pretty regularly back in the day. Most of those were regular season games.

I'd be surprised if anyone else has a policy like that for scrimmages. More and more NCAA vs. MDIA scrimmages and games have been happening recently. Varsity teams are usually restricted by their 17 play date limitation. Obviously, if they have to choose between a scrimmage with Hopkins (to use an extreme example) or one of us, they'll probably choose Hopkins.

If anyone could have gotten it done with ND, it was Dwayne. He played there.

Growing up in Ann Arbor before there was really much lax in Michigan, I used to love going and watching the Spartans beat up on Michigan.

Just kidding JP

[John Paul]

Ha. Actually the Michigan club team has an overall winning record against Michigan State's varsity team. As State developed into a legitimate top-20 team at the end of the 80's and early 90's, they started winning regularly. My first year at Michigan we beat them (and Ohio State's D1 team that year, but lost to Notre Dame). That was the last Michigan win. We did have a few really good games though in that span. 91 was the first year they blew us out. I wasn't playing that year, but I came back in 92 for a pretty good shellacking they put on us in Ann Arbor.

[the lax]

To Oakland, St. Vincent's is a classless NAIA program and I'm sorry you are mixed up in a scrimmage with them. My friend was being recruited there and when he decided to not attend school he called the coach himself to inform him of his choice. The coach, who will remain namesless, stated it was the worst decision of his life and promptly hung up the phone. Needless to say, my friend went on to play 2nd line midfield at a D3 NCAA tournament team as a freshman.
Examples go on and on of the shadyness that resides just outside of Pittsburgh. I wish you the best of luck against them.