The PNCLL at the 2008 MCLA National Championships in Dallas

[Dr. Jason Stockton]

Last year I incorrectly predicted WWU would beat Harding. . .and ended up sending a pair of Tacoma Starz lacrosse shorts to "scooter" after the loss.

I'm sure Scooter will take another wager. . .maybe I should make another friendly wager on the other "Western" against Harding. . .

Go Wolves!!!

[Ballaholic]

I'm predicting an SFU - Michigan - Chapman - ASU final four.

Do any teams from the south or east have a strong shot at being in the final four?

Best team east of the rockies is Duluth, i think they have a good shot at the Final Four this year

[Ballaholic]

other than this year...

Does anyone know the last time a team went from being in the national championship game to not even making the tourney the next year?

[Timbalaned]

other than this year...

Does anyone know the last time a team went from being in the national championship game to not even making the tourney the next year?

Ravaging Beast posted it in another forum I think, but he said something along the lines that since it has gone to a 16 team tourney this is the first time it has happened.

[timekeeper]

I'm predicting an SFU - Michigan - Chapman - ASU final four.

Do any teams from the south or east have a strong shot at being in the final four?

Best team east of the rockies is Duluth, i think they have a good shot at the Final Four this year

Best team east of the Rockies is Michigan. It beat Duluth this year, as it beat 7 other ranked teams (including 6 on the road) in going 14-0 this season. I don't think any other D1 team won as many games against ranked teams and I know of no other team that beat BYU at BYU, Arizona State at Arizona State, Colorado State at Colorado State, Duluth at Duluth, Colorado at Colorado and Michigan State on a neutral field. It also beat Arizona at Arizona, Illinois and Lindenwood at Michigan and Michigan State again in their tournament championship game. How could anyone think that another team could be better than that?

[Inthebox]

other than this year...

Does anyone know the last time a team went from being in the national championship game to not even making the tourney the next year?

then this year is double the anomaly, since oregon and montana both didn't make it to texas.

[slowbreak]

Michigan beat BYU at BYU, Arizona State at Arizona State, Colorado State at Colorado State, Duluth at Duluth, Colorado at Colorado and Michigan State on a neutral field. It also beat Arizona at Arizona, Illinois and Lindenwood at Michigan and Michigan State again in their tournament championship game.

From reviewing this impressive list I get the distinct feeling that the "National Tournament" is really an annual battle to determine the best of the West/Midwest/Upper Midwest.

Do teams from the south and east ever make the finals?

[nhoskins]

Michigan beat BYU at BYU, Arizona State at Arizona State, Colorado State at Colorado State, Duluth at Duluth, Colorado at Colorado and Michigan State on a neutral field. It also beat Arizona at Arizona, Illinois and Lindenwood at Michigan and Michigan State again in their tournament championship game.

From reviewing this impressive list I get the distinct feeling that the "National Tournament" is really an annual battle to determine the best of the West/Midwest/Upper Midwest.

Do teams from the south and east ever make the finals?

Nope. With the exception of FSU making the final four one year, the eastern and southern teams aren't even in the conversation.

[Timbalaned]

Michigan beat BYU at BYU, Arizona State at Arizona State, Colorado State at Colorado State, Duluth at Duluth, Colorado at Colorado and Michigan State on a neutral field. It also beat Arizona at Arizona, Illinois and Lindenwood at Michigan and Michigan State again in their tournament championship game.

From reviewing this impressive list I get the distinct feeling that the "National Tournament" is really an annual battle to determine the best of the West/Midwest/Upper Midwest.

Do teams from the south and east ever make the finals?

Nope. With the exception of FSU making the final four one year, the eastern and southern teams aren't even in the conversation.

Hell besides our own two Oregon and SFU no one from outside CA, CO, or UT have been in the finals. (I think)

[Dr. Jason Stockton]

I'm predicting an SFU - Michigan - Chapman - ASU final four.

Do any teams from the south or east have a strong shot at being in the final four?

Best team east of the rockies is Duluth, i think they have a good shot at the Final Four this year

Best team east of the Rockies is Michigan. It beat Duluth this year, as it beat 7 other ranked teams (including 6 on the road) in going 14-0 this season. I don't think any other D1 team won as many games against ranked teams and I know of no other team that beat BYU at BYU, Arizona State at Arizona State, Colorado State at Colorado State, Duluth at Duluth, Colorado at Colorado and Michigan State on a neutral field. It also beat Arizona at Arizona, Illinois and Lindenwood at Michigan and Michigan State again in their tournament championship game. How could anyone think that another team could be better than that?

You sound like a Michigan Alumnus!! Oh wait. . .you are. Look for JP to send you a donation letter soon. . .

[Ballaholic]

I'm predicting an SFU - Michigan - Chapman - ASU final four.

Do any teams from the south or east have a strong shot at being in the final four?

Best team east of the rockies is Duluth, i think they have a good shot at the Final Four this year

Best team east of the Rockies is Michigan. It beat Duluth this year, as it beat 7 other ranked teams (including 6 on the road) in going 14-0 this season. I don't think any other D1 team won as many games against ranked teams and I know of no other team that beat BYU at BYU, Arizona State at Arizona State, Colorado State at Colorado State, Duluth at Duluth, Colorado at Colorado and Michigan State on a neutral field. It also beat Arizona at Arizona, Illinois and Lindenwood at Michigan and Michigan State again in their tournament championship game. How could anyone think that another team could be better than that?

sorry i forgot about michigan, with the way the played this year they are the favorite.

[nhoskins]

I'm predicting an SFU - Michigan - Chapman - ASU final four.

Do any teams from the south or east have a strong shot at being in the final four?

Best team east of the rockies is Duluth, i think they have a good shot at the Final Four this year

Best team east of the Rockies is Michigan. It beat Duluth this year, as it beat 7 other ranked teams (including 6 on the road) in going 14-0 this season. I don't think any other D1 team won as many games against ranked teams and I know of no other team that beat BYU at BYU, Arizona State at Arizona State, Colorado State at Colorado State, Duluth at Duluth, Colorado at Colorado and Michigan State on a neutral field. It also beat Arizona at Arizona, Illinois and Lindenwood at Michigan and Michigan State again in their tournament championship game. How could anyone think that another team could be better than that?

sorry i forgot about michigan, with the way the played this year they are the favorite.

It IS Michigan though... it's as if the lacrosse Gods hate them when it comes National Championship time. I don't see them making the finals, and maybe not even the final four.

[Timbalaned]

I'm predicting an SFU - Michigan - Chapman - ASU final four.

Do any teams from the south or east have a strong shot at being in the final four?

Best team east of the rockies is Duluth, i think they have a good shot at the Final Four this year

Best team east of the Rockies is Michigan. It beat Duluth this year, as it beat 7 other ranked teams (including 6 on the road) in going 14-0 this season. I don't think any other D1 team won as many games against ranked teams and I know of no other team that beat BYU at BYU, Arizona State at Arizona State, Colorado State at Colorado State, Duluth at Duluth, Colorado at Colorado and Michigan State on a neutral field. It also beat Arizona at Arizona, Illinois and Lindenwood at Michigan and Michigan State again in their tournament championship game. How could anyone think that another team could be better than that?

sorry i forgot about michigan, with the way the played this year they are the favorite.

It IS Michigan though... it's as if the lacrosse Gods hate them when it comes National Championship time. I don't see them making the finals, and maybe not even the final four.

Me either, I mean for their sake I hope they do, but they just always fold like a cheap lawn chair at the tourney

[onpoint]

Me either, I mean for their sake I hope they do, but they just always fold like a cheap long chair at the tourney

What's a long chair?

[Timbalaned]

Me either, I mean for their sake I hope they do, but they just always fold like a cheap long chair at the tourney

What's a long chair?

Thanks, it was too early in the morning for me