Chris Jenkins News

[BB]

http://kstp.com/article/stories/s421846.shtml?v=1

The story is now even bigger. This is pretty scary. Man do I feel for the Jenkins family and others.

[msum26]

probably one of the most bizarre things i have ever seen, but very interesting in shedding light on these scenarios

when looking at the list of wis and mn college kids that could all be related its creepy

one of the kids on the list i graduated with and was a good friend, hopefully someday this will be solved

[BB]

yeah, and another kid was the Duluth Rugby player that died/was killed up in duluth.

[KevinBice]

I can't even believe what I just saw.

Thank god for Gannon and Duarte. If they can manage to pull this all together and get some convictions, it will validate all the time and money they've invested in this. It will also bring some semblance of closure for all of those affected by these crimes.

Seriously, this is the kind of thing you see in movies, not in real life. I can't fathom how terrible some people can be and it's time that they get what they deserve.

[Zeuslax]

Looking at the interactive map it looks like the deaths follow the highway up to Collegeville. I'm not sure of the timeframe of each incident, but some have too many questions. The Northern Illinois student who's friend was parking the car at the hotel and when the friend parks the car and returns he has just disappeared. They find him 11 miles away? It's kind of easy to see some connections after it's laid out a little for you.

[Pinball]

http://www.startribune.com/local/18375754.html

Recent television news reports on the unsolved Halloween night death of Chris Jenkins in Minneapolis more than five years ago prompted police today to say that they "can neither confirm nor endorse" the latest suspicions about the University of Minnesota college student's drowning.

[Jack Peterson]

After speaking with a few police officers I've learned some curious information about this:

-The two "Ex NYPD Officers" confronted the Lacrosse, Wis Police Department by saying that they were current Officers, (Impersonation of an officer) in order to recieve information they wouldn't normally have access to.

-The Officers I've talked to say that "There is absolutely no evidence of gagging/binding/torture on any of the bodies."

-In the video the investigators say that they have been paying 'out of pocket' for their services, and even mortgaged their houses. This is a half truth, they technically ARE paying out of pocket, but they're also making a TON of money from the families who want to believe their theory/want to believe that their sons were Victimized. They are charging the families large amounts of money for their services, and more and more families are contacting them for help.

-To definately determine "This is where the body went in the water" is impossible without more physical evidence.

I asked 'how do you explain the smiley faces they've found', he responded "I dont know. I just dont know. The mere presence of smiley faces, however, dont say that there is a serial killer, and the location of these smiley faces isn't and hasn't been proven to be where the bodies went in the water (or where the young men fell in the water)"


I'm by no means trying to disrespect the victims, or Chris Jenkins, simply providing journalistic findings.

[Zeuslax]

Jack, I think your info is interesting. Unfortunately when you believe something so strongly it can often cloud your vision. In the news report they made it fairly obvious that Chris wasn't physically tortured, but they believe he was mentally tortured.

[KevinBice]

From what I understand, Gannon and Duarte aren't asking for any payment from the families involved. The U of M does a 5k run every year and half of the proceeds go to the Jenkins family; this year they went to fund Gannon and Duarte's investigation.

It's healthy to have skeptics about things like this, but these guys are putting together quite a case so far. At the very least, they're finally doing what the Minneapolis PD didn't do... they're investigating what happened as a murder, not a suicide, and instead of trying to piece together the little evidence the MPD had gathered, they're searching for new clues.

[gopherlaxcoach]

After speaking with a few police officers I've learned some curious information about this:

-The two "Ex NYPD Officers" confronted the Lacrosse, Wis Police Department by saying that they were current Officers, (Impersonation of an officer) in order to recieve information they wouldn't normally have access to.

-The Officers I've talked to say that "There is absolutely no evidence of gagging/binding/torture on any of the bodies."

-In the video the investigators say that they have been paying 'out of pocket' for their services, and even mortgaged their houses. This is a half truth, they technically ARE paying out of pocket, but they're also making a TON of money from the families who want to believe their theory/want to believe that their sons were Victimized. They are charging the families large amounts of money for their services, and more and more families are contacting them for help.

-To definately determine "This is where the body went in the water" is impossible without more physical evidence.

I asked 'how do you explain the smiley faces they've found', he responded "I dont know. I just dont know. The mere presence of smiley faces, however, dont say that there is a serial killer, and the location of these smiley faces isn't and hasn't been proven to be where the bodies went in the water (or where the young men fell in the water)"


I'm by no means trying to disrespect the victims, or Chris Jenkins, simply providing journalistic findings.

Given my relationship to Chris and the case, I'd like to add some thoughts.

I know nothing of the incident in LaCrosse, WI but would refute it based on the men I know Kevin and Anthony to be. To continue, there is often no signs of struggle, abuse, torture in these drownings as many of the young men have been found after months of sitting in water. Had Chris Jenkins or any other person been beaten or even strangled, those marks or bruises would have "washed" away. Aside from cuts/lacerations and broken bones, everything would vanish after weeks in the water. The fact that no physical evidence was found does NOT mean there was not physical harm inflicted.

Finally, I will assure everyone that Kevin and Anthony have not profited one cent in the investigation of these homicides. They have in fact mortgaged their houses to pay their own living expenses while they pursue these cases. They have received flights and hotel stays when its provided by the families (and it isn't always provided) but they have never asked for and will never ask for anything in return. I would venture to say that Kevin and Anthony could benefit from the writing of a book in the future however neither will publish anything until the case is solved. These are good men.

I'll agree that the mere presence of the smiley faces doesn't mean serial killer but the fact that so many of them have been found and the addition of the "Sinsinuwa" sign does show indications that they MAY be related. The fact that MPD and other law enforcement agencies completely disregard this notion is appalling. You can't rule something out you haven't investigated.

I also appreciate the view points presented. Its good to think critically and ask questions and I appreciate anyone's interest in this story. If you have any questions or concerns about ANYTHING, please don't hesitate to reach out to me. I would much prefer everyone know the truth rather than have rumors reach a meaningful volume.

[TexOle]

I remember playing against Chris weeks before he was murdered. I saw his friends and family become heartbroken over his loss. My heart broke for Coach Gamradt when I saw his pain as he coached St. Olaf that year. I was thankful that the lacrosse community came together to help in the search for him, but I felt hopelessness in not being able to do more. I remember thinking that maybe he just fell in due to drinking too much, but later we learned that there was more to the story. Recently the Minneapolis PD admitted that it was not an accidental death. They had evidence, but came just shy of charging individuals. We know Chris was murdered, but hopefully for all involved we will see justice.

[LaxRef]

Most people don't know it, but Chris was going to become an official, and I think he would have been excellent. When he contacted me about officiating, I arranged to do a set of 3 JV games in Rochester with him on a Saturday in May (the same year, I believe, that the tragedy occurred)--our training wasn't as formal back then. He seemed to have fun and picked things up quickly. If he were still alive, I'm sure he'd be one of our better officials by now and he'd be getting ready for the playoffs.

[Timbalaned]

I'll agree that the mere presence of the smiley faces doesn't mean serial killer but the fact that so many of them have been found and the addition of the "Sinsinuwa" sign does show indications that they MAY be related. The fact that MPD and other law enforcement agencies completely disregard this notion is appalling. You can't rule something out you haven't investigated.

Completely agree with this. It may be nothing at all, but it needs to be looked at. I just finished reading Helter Skelter a few weeks ago and there was so much stuff that was over looked or just thrown to the side that was thought to be nothing by the local police. When looked at further it was some of the most damning evidence in the case against Manson and the Family. I really hope they figure out what happened to Chris and all those other guys whether it is serial or individual.

[Zeuslax]

This story hit CNN tonight and Chris's picture was shown more than a couple times. They discussed the serial killer(s) and some of the local views.