Top 25 D2 Results for Poll #6

[Gvlax]

Still not posted but #13 Puget Sound defeated formerly ranked PLU 13-5.

thanks

[MF]

7. Fort Lewis College 10-2
Win vs #12 UVSC (RMLC-2) 15-11

FLC also has Win on 4/19 vs Utah State (RMLC-1) 16-6

[Gvlax]

7. Fort Lewis College 10-2
Win vs #12 UVSC (RMLC-2) 15-11

FLC also has Win on 4/19 vs Utah State (RMLC-1) 16-6

good catch. Everyone should check over what i have, i know i didnt catch all of the games.

[Gvlax]

7. Fort Lewis College 10-2
Win vs #12 UVSC (RMLC-2) 15-11

FLC also has Win on 4/19 vs Utah State (RMLC-1) 16-6

I believe you mean RMLC-2


Another thing i have noticed looking at teams schedules is that most teams in the top 15 who are playing teams that are ranked are playing them because they have to. They are conference teams. CCLA is having a weak year, plus Calvin is inelgible for votes so this makes the CCLA north look very week, hence our schedule might look week. It sucks when we scheduled two teams that were either ranked or on the boarder and then when it comes time to play them people still think they are decent but now looking back people say they are weak.


I just think its crazy/funny that teams are getting praise for playing top 25 teams when its something they have to do to qualify for their conference.

[James Foote]

7. Fort Lewis College 10-2
Win vs #12 UVSC (RMLC-2) 15-11

FLC also has Win on 4/19 vs Utah State (RMLC-1) 16-6

I believe you mean RMLC-2


Another thing i have noticed looking at teams schedules is that most teams in the top 15 who are playing teams that are ranked are playing them because they have to. They are conference teams. CCLA is having a weak year, plus Calvin is inelgible for votes so this makes the CCLA north look very week, hence our schedule might look week. It sucks when we scheduled two teams that were either ranked or on the boarder and then when it comes time to play them people still think they are decent but now looking back people say they are weak.


I just think its crazy/funny that teams are getting praise for playing top 25 teams when its something they have to do to qualify for their conference.

Utah State is a Div I team playing down along with Wyoming in the RMLC

[MF]

Utah State is a Div I team playing down along with Wyoming in the RMLC

Sorry, I didn’t realize that Utah State dropped back down.

[Beta]

Why did Utah State drop from the Division 1 to Division 2?

[Jolly Roger]

A team doesn't drop from D1 to D2. That implies a competitive difference which is not the basis for MCLA divisional differentiation.

Bone of contention for me...

[Beta]

Why did Utah State MOVE from the Division 1 to Division 2?

[laxtube2]

Utah State moved down to Div II in order to help their program grow. They were struggling in Div I so they wanted to move down and win some games and get back on track. That is what I understood when they moved.

[Beta]

Utah State moved down to Div II in order to help their program grow. They were struggling in Div I so they wanted to move down and win some games and get back on track. That is what I understood when they moved.

I thought D2 was not meant as a developmental division?

[Gvlax]

Utah State moved down to Div II in order to help their program grow. They were struggling in Div I so they wanted to move down and win some games and get back on track. That is what I understood when they moved.

I thought D2 was not meant as a developmental division?

its not, but that doesn't mean that its not used as one. Something needs to be done to clarify this so the debate about D2 can be over with.

[laxtube2]

True, it is not a developmental Div but within the RMLC they stand a better chance against the Div II teams rather than Utah, BYU, CSU, and CU.

[James Foote]

Utah State moved down to Div II in order to help their program grow. They were struggling in Div I so they wanted to move down and win some games and get back on track. That is what I understood when they moved.

I thought D2 was not meant as a developmental division?

its not, but that doesn't mean that its not used as one. Something needs to be done to clarify this so the debate about D2 can be over with.

By 'playing down' in DII, teams get to develop a DI squad but also void their opportunity of being included in playoffs, awards, polls, etc. There are teams that do this in other conferences as well, but I'm not positive on who (which really doesn't mater)

[WallyLaxFan]

First question, when does the next DII poll come out? April 29th?

Also, how much of a surge will Elon make in the next poll? I assume they will automatically move ahead of Fort Lewis and Emory with their SELC tournament win. Since St. John's lost to St. Thomas, could Elon possibly move ahead of St. John's. And what if Emory beats Dayton? How far up will Emory go and how far down will Dayton go?

Thoughts anyone?

I don't know why you would assume that they would automatically move ahead of Ft. Lewis. Just because a team is idle does not mean they are suddenly a worse team. Elon's top 25 wins this season are two 1 goal games in the last week. Ft. Lewis has an impressive resume against the top 25 for the entire season so I can't see them dropping down, especially since their activity since the last poll has no losses and includes beating #12 UVS. I also don't know if the wins in the SELC tournament are convincing enough to vault Elon ahead of three teams in the top 10. I think Elon's wins show that they are ranked about where they should be. As to the possibility of Elon moving ahead of Ft. Lewis, Emory, St. John's, and Dayton all in one poll....... I would be shocked to see that happen (in neither a good or bad way mind you, just outright shocked)
As it stands right now if a new DII poll were due out tomorrow I could see the top 10 coming up like this:

1.) Westminster
2.) St. Thomas
3.) Dayton
4.) GVSU
5.) Ft. Lewis
6.) Elon
7.) St. John's
8.) Emory
9.) SCAD
10.) WOU

This is how I personally would see the poll coming out. Although in my opinion I would have GVSU in the #2 spot and I would bump St. Thomas and Dayton back one spot each. I know I will catch heat for suggesting that St. Thomas move down after beating St. John's. However GVSU has beaten St. Thomas, who has beaten Dayton, who has beaten St. John's. This seems to set up a natural pecking order if you ask me. I think that the St. Thomas/St. John's game should serve as moving St. John's into the area of being a bubble team and solidifying St. Thomas' claim to deserving a top 5 spot and going to nationals. However just because they won that does not mean that they are a better team than GVSU (in fact the score of their game says GVSU is the ebtter team), and getting the best teams at the top is what this is about right?

I agree with your entire projection, but with Elon and Fort Lewis switched. Fort Lewis does have an excellent resume, but I feel that Elon's is slightly better. During the regular season, Elon beat two ranked teams, Davidson, and Charlotte who was eight at the time Elon beat them, 15-8. Then, beating three ranked teams in three days, two of which were in the top ten. If my knowledge is correct, Fort Lewis has not beaten a top ten team all year. That's not to say they wouldn't beat one if they were to play. I am not trying to take anything away from Fort Lewis as they're an outstanding program. I just feel at this time Elon has a better resume, and therefore should be ranked higher.