2008 Lax World MCLA Division 2 Top 25 Poll (4/16/08) is out!

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2008 Lax World MCLA Division 2 Top 25 Poll (4/16/08) is out!

Postby Sonny on Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:21 am

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Postby NinerCoach on Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:30 am

I'm a little surprised that Davidson managed to stay in the top 25 considering their loss to Appalachian and failure to make the tournament.

I'm really excited to see what happens to the poll after the SELC tourney this weekend. 4 of the teams are in the top 15 and all 6 fall within the first 27 vote getters. The results in Atlanta could play a major roll in how the poll on the 30th turns out.
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Postby Gvlax on Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:35 am

St. thomas losses to GVSU by 1 but plays a tougher schedule. I understand how St. Thomas could be ahead of GVSU. Dayton gets blown out by St. Thomas and still stays ahead of GVSU... very interesting pollsters.

Don't get me wrong, we are still happy with 4th place and that 1, 1st place vote
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Postby Rave on Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:57 am

When is the CCLA tourney? I am interested to see, if at all, Dayton and GVSC play each other. After watching both teams, I could see this as a high teens, maybe 20, goal game for both sides. I am very interested to see the outcome of that game.

What are the tournament dates for the leagues? I know the UMLL is the last weekend of April and the SELC is this weekend. Still a lot of lacrosse left to be played.
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Postby Gvlax on Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:58 am

Rave wrote:When is the CCLA tournanment? I am interested to see, if at all, Dayton and GVSC play each other. After watching both teams, I could see this as a high teens, maybe 20, goal game for both sides. I am very interested to see the outcome of that game.

What are the tournament dates for the leagues? I know the UMLL is the last weekend of April and the SELC is this weekend. Still a lot of lacrosse left to be played.


First rounds North #1 vs South # 2 and South #1 vs North #2 on May 2nd. Then the final and compensation game on the 3rd of May. Saline High School near Ann Arbor.
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Postby gibertjs on Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:04 am

I find it interesting the potential for a wide range of ranked team and unranked teams to make the National Tournament. If it started today barring no upsets in conference tourneys it would be:

#1 Westminster RMLC AQ
#2 St. Thomas UMLL AQ
#3 Dayton CCLA AL
#4 Grand Valley State CCLA AL
#5 St. Johns UMLL AL
#6 Emory SELC AQ
#7 Fort Lewis RMLC AL
#10 Western Oregon PNCLL AQ
#14 Harding GRLC AQ
#18 Southwestern LSA AQ
#25 UC Santa Cruz WCLL AQ
#35 Framingham State PCLL AQ

No disrespect to Framingham or UC Santa Cruz, but #5 Vs.#35, and #6 Vs. #25 isn't gonna produce many great first round games. Then again we've been surprised before.
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Postby Hi-Line Lax on Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:52 am

still way too many teams receiving votes... c'mon guys.
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Postby Gvlax on Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:03 am

Hi-Line Lax wrote:still way too many teams receiving votes... c'mon guys.


One that stands out is CMU. not hating on their program but it was the first one to catch my eye. Looking at their record and teams they have got beaten by and how much... just wondering who still thinks they are top 25.
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Postby scooter on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:52 am

How Missouri S&T got a vote is absurd, how Dordt is ranked behind Creighton is nuts, and how UST got 2 first place votes is beyond me.
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Postby Tim Gray on Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:07 pm

gibertjs wrote:I find it interesting the potential for a wide range of ranked team and unranked teams to make the National Tournament. If it started today barring no upsets in conference tourneys it would be:

#1 Westminster RMLC AQ
#2 St. Thomas UMLL AQ
#3 Dayton CCLA AL
#4 Grand Valley State CCLA AL
#5 St. Johns UMLL AL
#6 Emory SELC AQ
#7 Fort Lewis RMLC AL
#10 Western Oregon PNCLL AQ
#14 Harding GRLC AQ
#18 Southwestern LSA AQ
#25 UC Santa Cruz WCLL AQ
#35 Framingham State PCLL AQ

No disrespect to Framingham or UC Santa Cruz, but #5 Vs.#35, and #6 Vs. #25 isn't gonna produce many great first round games. Then again we've been surprised before.


I can't speak for UC Santa Cruz, but I know that the PCLL teams do not get votes b/c they do not play any OOC games. We've been trying to get them to, but it's a struggle. Hopefully whomever represents the PCLL can do well at the NC.
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Postby Matt_Gardiner on Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:56 pm

An argument could be made that Dordt is Creighton's achilles heel. I believe that Creighton is the better team, but that Dordt just has Creighton's number. Creighton has struggled against Dordt's physical style of play and Dordt always has a sound gameplan when it comes to playing them.

I voted Creighton ahead of Dordt. I do not believe it was irresponsible at all. I believe that Creighton is the more dangerous team.
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Postby Gvlax on Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:11 pm

Matt_Gardiner wrote:An argument could be made that Dordt is Creighton's achilles heel. I believe that Creighton is the better team, but that Dordt just has Creighton's number. Creighton has struggled against Dordt's physical style of play and Dordt always has a sound gameplan when it comes to playing them.

I voted Creighton ahead of Dordt. I do not believe it was irresponsible at all. I believe that Creighton is the more dangerous team.



why even play the game then if the outcome doesnt matter?
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Changes in Points

Postby Andy Sharp on Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:37 pm

83 More - #10 from #12 - Western Oregon
81 Less - #05 from #02 - St. John's - MN
79 More - #02 from #05 - St. Thomas
73 Less - #18 from #16 - Southwestern
64 Less - #23 from #20 - Davidson
63 Less - #12 from #09 - Utah Valley State
58 More - #04 from #06 - Grand Valley State
54 Less - #42 from #25 - US Coast Guard
53 More - #15 from #18 - North Carolina - Charlotte
46 More - #21 from #23 - Coastal Carolina
43 More - #14 from #17 - Harding
43 Less - #16 from #14 - Creighton
38 Less - #17 from #15 - Northern Colorado
37 More - #11 from #11 - Montana State
35 More - #25 from #39 - UC Santa Cruz
24 More - #20 from #22 - Central Washington
23 More - #26 from #37 - Dordt
21 More - #27 from #45 - Tennessee Wesleyan
21 Less - #37 from #27 - Southern Oregon
20 Less - #06 from #04 - Emory
20 More - #08 from #08 - Elon
19 Less - #31 from #26 - Pepperdine
19 Less - #44 from #29 - Appalachian State
19 Less - #NR from #30 - Cal State Fullerton
18 Less - #44 from #30 - Missouri S & T
17 More - #09 from #10 - Savannah College AD
14 More - #29 from #37 - St. Louis
14 Less - #NR from #35 - Central Connecticut State
13 More - #01 from #01 - Westminster
11 Less - #30 from #28 - Wisconsin - Eau Claire
10 More - #07 from #07 - Fort Lewis
09 More - #28 from #32 - Biola
09 More - #31 from #45 - Northern Michigan
09 Less - #40 from #36 - Trinity
08 Less - #19 from #19 - Western Washington
07 Less - #NR from #43 - Grove City
06 Less - #13 from #13 - Puget Sound
06 More - #31 from #39 - DePaul
06 Less - #42 from #39 - Maine
06 Less - #NR from #44 - Taylor
05 Less - #35 from #32 - Framingham State
05 More - #38 from #NR - Saginaw Valley State
05 More - #38 from #NR - Whitman
04 More - #03 from #03 - Dayton
04 More - #40 from #NR - Bridgewater State
04 Less - #NR from #47 - St. Edward's
03 Less - #22 from #21 - Metropolitan State
03 Less - #NR from #48 - Ferris State
02 Less - #34 from #32 - Northern Arizona
02 Less - #NR from #49 - Rockhurst
01 More - #24 from #24 - Colorado School of Mines
01 Less - #NR from #50 - Eckerd
00 Same - #36 from #39 - Carnegie Mellon

Anyone see anything of note?
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Postby Brew26 on Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:44 pm

How is Creighton rated so high. They have no wins in the top 25 and lost to a team not even in the top 25. I also dont get how Southwestern is still up there. They have no top 25 wins and are being held to their ranking by losses.

Northern Colorado, Western Washington, and Central Washington at least have one win in the top 25 and have played some close games with other top 25 teams.
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Postby LPM21 on Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:46 pm

Santa Cruz still has to beat Biola to get the AQ from the WCLL
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