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by **JStoops** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:09 pm

Romes why did you have to bring Bannister into this. What has he done for this team the past two years? Shinanigans on you Romes. No more post for you unless you can back that weak suggestion.

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by **untlax23** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:38 pm

I just recall all those motivational speechs he gave to the guys whenever they made a mistake.... or how he made the d stay for extra practice...

by **Ryan Davis** on Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:38 pm

Chris Files for UNT has 51 goals with 3 games to play. He is averaging 4.64 goals a game with 18 assists for the season. This is impressive considering he is playing with 2 freshmen at attack and a very young team in general. He is someone everyone in the league needs to watch for as an MVP and a 1st team LSA candidate.

by **yeagy** on Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:31 pm

Ryan Davis wrote:Chris Files for UNT has 51 goals with 3 games to play. He is averaging 4.64 goals a game with 18 assists for the season. This is impressive considering he is playing with 2 freshmen at attack and a very young team in general. He is someone everyone in the league needs to watch for as an MVP and a 1st team LSA candidate.

quit making post that make sense.....

by **Cousin17** on Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:45 pm

Those are nice stats but how many of those goals are against top 25 USLIA teams?

by **Ryan Davis** on Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:19 pm

How many teams in the LSA are in the top 25? Zero. What does it matter if no one in the LSA can beat a top 25 team? Chris can put up numbers aganist any team.

by **Cousin17** on Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:51 pm

You can't say that until he actually does put up numbers against a top 25 team. Remember, how many LSA teams are in the top 25? zero. So I assume there may be a difference in competition.

by **LaxC21** on Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:54 pm

I would have to say that before everyone starts to decide who the MVP is, you might want to define what characteristics qualify someone to be MVP.

Is it the guy that has the most stats? Is it the guy that makes your team better or if he was on another team would make just a big an impact? Is it the guy that if he didn't play you would absolutely loose the game? Maybe it is all of those?

In my opinion MVP is not about stats, it's a little bit of everything above and most importantly a guy that has the ability to single handedly change the outcome of a game. If the whole team is struggling, he could carry the team to victory.

by **monkeylax** on Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:36 am

Agreed, LaxC21. I don't think that averaging six goals a game in blowout games defines an offensive league MVP. I have been taught that "stats conceal as much as they reveal."

by **untlax23** on Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:23 am

LaxC21 wrote:I would have to say that before everyone starts to decide who the MVP is, you might want to define what characteristics qualify someone to be MVP.

Is it the guy that has the most stats? Is it the guy that makes your team better or if he was on another team would make just a big an impact? Is it the guy that if he didn't play you would absolutely loose the game? Maybe it is all of those?

In my opinion MVP is not about stats, it's a little bit of everything above and most importantly a guy that has the ability to single handedly change the outcome of a game. If the whole team is struggling, he could carry the team to victory.

I agree with this approach. The whole arguement of 'who have you played' is a terrible one. If that was the case then you are handing out the MVP to player who played the most games against ranked teams. That is no measure of a MVP.

I think when people sit down to consider the league MVP, I think a question should be asked, "When that player is on the field, does the other team change their game plan to because of them?"

by **Karl Lynch** on Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:32 am

Here are Chris Files' stats against the potential playoff teams from LSA over the past two seasons.

2005

UT - 3 g, 0 a
A&M - 2, 1
TSU - 3, 2
Tulane - 4,1
Southwest Missouri State - 6,0

2004

UT - 2,2
SMU - 3,2
A&M - 2,1
TSU - 4,1
Tech - 5,0

He has pretty high points per game stats against the best LSA teams. The stats seem to reveal that Chris has incredible consistency against the best teams in the league.

by **the lax** on Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:43 am

Tulane and South West Missouri Technical of the North East Branch campus are far from the best teams in the league.

Chris Deeke for Rookie of the Year!

by **Cousin17** on Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:33 pm

There is a difference between LSA playoff potential and Nationals potential. It would be better to have an MVP that put up numbers against top 25 teams. There are LSA teams that do play harder schedules than North Texas and that play non-conference games against top 25 teams. This is why I would support an MVP from Texas, Texas Tech, or Texas A&M.

by **LaxC21** on Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:37 pm

I'm not making this argument to say that Chris is not worthy of MVP status...but if you are going to compare stats to say how good a player is, then maybe you should compare his stats against past MVP winners.

I believe you will see that Chris' stats don't measure up to past winners who had big performances consistently in the LSA games and against OOC opponents.

Just another reason the argument for MVP should not be measured by stats alone.

by **FlockOfSeagulls** on Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:48 pm

Normally I would use my old "the leading scorer from UNT is like Peyton Manning" argument and say to look for the league's Tom Brady to hand out the MVP, but there really hasnt been anyone to fit that bill. Last year, those who argued against Davis from UNT had Dunn to replace him with. The same argument is here against Files, but there is no one to replace him with... So why not give it to the guy. Seems like it would make a whole lot of gentlemen in Denton sleep better at night.

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