This is long, but give it a chance:
Here are the By law tiebreakers:
Ÿ 6.4.1 Ties for a seeding shall be broken by the following criteria in this order:
Ÿ 6.4.1.1 Head to head record.
Ÿ 6.4.1.2 Goals allowed in head to head games.
Ÿ 6.4.1.3 Goals allowed in the UMLL season.
Ÿ 6.4.1.4 Coin toss.
NOTE - For the B division - Because there are so many unplayed games, the scenarios cannot be published with any certainty. ALSO NOTE - that conf. winning percentage will determine seeding order if not all B division games are played. If a tie exists, the above tiebreakers shall be used.
DIVISION A Scenarios/Assumptions/Conclusions
FIRST - UWSP is out of the league tournament for this year because they do not have 3 OOC games.
SECOND: ST. OLAF/UofM and UMD ARE IN. All have 3 or more wins in conf. Remaining games will determine seeding for #1/2/3/4 (SCSU could be #3 if they win all 3 games [4 wins 3 losses and head to head with St. Olaf (but only if St. Olaf only wins one more game, if STO wins 2 games they cannot be lower than #3 (they'll have 5 wins)) - UofM has 5 wins, UMD has 5 wins in conf, thus neither can be lower than #3.]
THIRD: Under all Scenarios I run below, ISU and MARQUETTE are IN the tournament, but their seeding varies. That IS NOT THE CASE FOR Mankato/SCSU Their games this weekend determine which of them go to the tourney.
FOURTH: If SCSU wins more than one game, they are in the tournament regardless.
In short - the following Division A scenarios exist.
CASE 1: ASSUMPTIONS:
St. Cloud wins one of three, and has a 2-5 record:
Mankato Beats UWSP
All 4 teams are 2-5. Head to head does not define the order (i.e. no one team has beaten all others.)
Next - goals allowed in head to head games - least goals is highest seed.
By my count, ISU let in 14 (combined) v. Marq/MSU/SCSU --Marquette let in 23 (combined) v. SCSU/ISU/MSU, Mankato let in 24 and SCSU let in 28.
Under this scenario SCSU is out and other 3 are in. Seeding 1-3 is the top 3, 4 is ISU, 5 is Marq and 6 is Mankato
CASE 2: ASSUMPTIONS:
St Cloud Loses all three.
Mankato loses to UWSP
2 teams at 1-6 - SCSU has the tie break - they beat Mankato head to head. Mankato is out. SCSU is the #6 seed and plays the #3 first round
2 teams at 2-5 - Marquette has tie break - they beat ISU head to head. Marquette is 4 and ISU is 5. They play each other first round
CASE 3: ASSUMPTIONS:
St. Cloud Wins one of three leaving them at 2-5
USWP beats Mankato, leaving Mankato at 1-6
Mankato is out.
3 teams at 2-5 - SCSU/MARQ/ISU - first tiebreaker (head to head) solves this
Marquette beat SCSU and ISU. They are the #4 seed.
ISU beat SCSU. ISU is the #5 seed
SCSU is the #6 seed
CASE #4: ASSUMPTIONS
St. Cloud Loses all three, leaving them at 1-6. They are out. Tie breaker used to seed remaining teams.
Mankato Beats UWSP - leaving them at 2-5, tied with ISU/Marquette. Head to Head does not resolve the tie because no 1 team beat other two teams:
Goals Against tiebreaker - ISU has 8, is #4 seed. Marq has 13, is #5 seed. Mankato has 15, is #6 seed.
CASE #5: ASSUMPTIONS:
SCSU wins 2 of 3 - they are 3-4. They are in. UMD is In, UofM is In. St. Olaf is In. Seeding depends on who beats who.
Mankato wins. Tied with ISU/Marquette - No Head to head (see Case #4). Goals against Tiebreaker moves Mankato out due to goals against.
CASE #6 Assumptions
SCSU wins 2 of 3 - they are 3-4 and a minimum they are the 4th seed (if St.O did not win another game, they would be the #4 and SCSU would be the #3). As noted above, UMD is in, UofM is in. St. Olaf is In. Seeding depends on who beats who.
Mankato loses to UWSP - they are out with a 1-6 record.
ISU/Marquette - Marquette is #5, ISU is #6 based upon head to head.
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Rob
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Goals Against Data from MCLA.US
Marq:
Marq 11 - SCSU 10
Marq 4 - ISU 2
Marq 5 - MSU 11
TOTAL Goals Against w/ tied teams for CASE #1 = 23
TOTAL Goals Against w/ tied teams for CASE #4 & 5 =13
MANKATO
MSU 12 - SCSU 9
MSU 4 ISU10
MSU 11 - Marq 5
TOTAL Goals Against w/ tied teams for CASE #1 = 24
TOTAL Goals Against w/ tied teams for CASE # 4 & 5 = 15
SCSU
SCSU 10 - Marq 11
SCSU 6 - ISU 8
SCSU 12 - MSU 9
TOTAL Goals Against w/ tied teams for CASE #1 = 28
ISU
ISU 8 SCSU 6
ISU 2 MARQ 4
ISU 10 MSU 4
TOTAL Goals Against w/ tied teams for CASE #1 = 14
TOTAL Goals Against w/ tied teams for CASE # 4 & 5 = 8
2007 UMLL Tiebreakers
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2007 UMLL Tiebreakers
Rob Graff
EX - UMD Head Coach
UMLL League Director
Director - Team Minnesota - http://www.teammnlax.net
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." B. Franklin.
EX - UMD Head Coach
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"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." B. Franklin.
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Tex:
A division - At the Fall meeting the # of playoff spots were decreased to 6 of 8 teams. #1 and #2 seeds get a bye first round. 3 v. 6 and 4 v. 5 in first round on Friday.
B division kept their tourney at 8 teams.
A division - At the Fall meeting the # of playoff spots were decreased to 6 of 8 teams. #1 and #2 seeds get a bye first round. 3 v. 6 and 4 v. 5 in first round on Friday.
B division kept their tourney at 8 teams.
Rob Graff
EX - UMD Head Coach
UMLL League Director
Director - Team Minnesota - http://www.teammnlax.net
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." B. Franklin.
EX - UMD Head Coach
UMLL League Director
Director - Team Minnesota - http://www.teammnlax.net
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." B. Franklin.
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