CSTV to air Intercollegiate Associates Championship Shows

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Postby UofMLaxGoalie11 on Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:09 pm

Has No Left wrote:For those who are media savvy, ESPNHD did not encrpt their DIRECTV transmission of the DI championship game (they usually do). If you recorded the game in dvr-ms format, using Windows Media Center, you can break down the game using the correct software. I have put it together on a DVD with no commercials, period chapter breaks, chapters for all goal scored etc., etc. Don't ask me for a copy-it's copyrigted material.

how much you want for a copy? I missed every single game and ive been avoiding the ncaa tourney topic like the plague, but last night i got pissed when i found out hopkins won it. that was my modern day equivilent of "i cant believe that darth vader was his father!". so if you could just pm me or something im sure i can work something out.
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Postby laxfan25 on Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:38 pm

John Paul wrote:Really? I haven't seen that check from you Bert. You must have sent it to the wrong address.

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Postby CATLAX MAN on Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:58 am

As a reminder, don't forget about the initial airing of this program tonight at 9:00 Eastern, 6:00 Pacific time!
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Postby John Paul on Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:06 am

Watched the show this morning (I Tivoed it last night). I thought CSTV did a really nice job.

That said, when we had our EB on a conference call with US Lacrosse earlier this week going over the tournament, one thing I mentioned - it's time for CSTV to do the entire game, live if possible. Even if it's taped, there's really no reason to cut it down. They film it and announce it on site as if it's live. I'm hopeful that change will be made for next year.
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Replays?

Postby champp on Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:38 am

I missed the show. Anyone know when it will be replayed?
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Re: Replays?

Postby Sonny on Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:41 am

champp wrote:I missed the show. Anyone know when it will be replayed?


Please read the original post. You can check the entire schedule of lacrossse broadcasts on the CSTV web site. I think it was on again this morning at 10am (eastern).
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Postby cricketman on Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:43 am

I agree absolutely that they should air the entire game. While it's terrific to see, even in highlights, you just don't get the feel of the battle. To see Sonoma's failure to penetrate the Guacho defense for something like 23 minutes in the second half really showed the essence of that game. I was also shocked to get back to the second half and see that SB had scored 4 more goals! Admittedly we saw them in highlight recaps but nonetheless the viewer missed the incredible determination that the Guachos exhibited that night. I actually think they CSTV did a better job to represent the game against CSU in 04 than this year.

Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that someone's televising these games but they could be even better in a full game format
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Postby CATLAX MAN on Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:59 am

Gotta agree with Cricket. The 1 hour format just cuts out way too much. It really didn't show the intensity of the game, especially in the 2nd half. I agree it would be great to show the entire game. It's not like CSTV doesn't have available air time. They have the ability to do that for this year's game, so perhaps if we emailed the responsible people to have them air it at a later date, perhaps they might consider it. They ought to be able to find a time slot in the suimmer when there is not much going on in the college ranks. Let them know your interest out there!
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Postby Bluevelvet on Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:32 pm

Catlaxman and Cricketman, you are both being way too polite.
The CSTV 1 hour game broadcast was one of the worst editing jobs I have ever seen.
The bulk of the broadcast was in the first and fourth quarter when the trends of the game were not established. The second quarter was when Sonoma took control and the third quarter was when UCSB came storming back to tie the game.
The broadcast skipped from a 6-3 halftime score to when they picked up the action late in the 3rd with the score 7-7. How did that happen? Well, they showed some replays but then went live for the last 9 minutes when there were no goals scored.
On the good side; the sideline shots were great. They had replays of the controversial timeout at the end of the game. It clearly showed the UCSB goalie out of cage. The interviews were good.
But that editing job just took the drama of the UCSB comeback and the tense 4th quarter completely out of the broadcast.
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Postby PigPen on Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:56 pm

The CSTV 1 hour game broadcast was one of the worst editing jobs I have ever seen.


bad yes-but remember CBS butchering the DI championships in the early 1990's ? Massacre.
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Postby laxfan25 on Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:13 am

Guys, I think you've got to step back and appreciate the fact that this was covered on a national cable network!! How many other college non-varsity sports get this coverage? Unfortunately I don't get CSTV, but in my mind this is a great achievement, edited to an hour or not. You have to understand that you are not the average viewers, you have an intense passion for the event, and obviously would like the whole game broadcast. I think you should step back and be extremely pleased with what you've gotten, and move on from there. You can always get copies of game films if you want to relive the whole thing. This wasn't Philly with 45,000 people in the stands..
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Postby John Paul on Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:34 am

I don't think anyone is not appreciating it. They are just offering criticism. CSTV does cover other club sports, some in their entirety. They are always looking for programming. They already produce our championship game on-site as if it's a live, full-length telecast (with play by announcers, etc.). This is an easy step for them to take. In fact, I would guess it would save them some money as they wouldn't have to edit. If we don't ask for them to take the step, we aren't moving on.
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Postby KnoxVegas on Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:34 am

mholtz wrote:Anyone else of the opinion that ESPNU is going to really hurt CSTV?


I for one do not agree with the above question. First of all, CSTV has a 10-year contract with the NCAA to not only do televised events but to also provide internet-based content devied from their coverage of the NCAA events available on their website, www.cstv.com. ESPN and FSN were late to the party on this one, believe it or not. ESPNU came on-air a full year after CSTV and while they may have the market share and the name recognition, they do not have the exclusive deal that CSTV does.

As for the coverage of the MDIA tournament in Blaine, I have to admit that I have not seen it yet. I can say that what an anthology show, which is what their coverage limited to an hour-long (actually less due to commercials), tries to do is a give a flavor of the event. Be thankful that they were there to cover the event in the first place.

While CSTV is not in every market, they are making a slow and steady growth. ESPN is a name and I am sure it would make everyone so happy to have them come and cover your events, but think of how they have grown in the past ten years. There will some time before you see the boys from Bristol showing up to cover club games. The almighty dollar dictates what is covered and I do not think that Proctor and Gamble (for one) are beating down the doors of the networks to place their adds on college club lacrosse games.

Reality is what we have to deal in but continue to dream. Get this, there is an entire cable network devoted to golf. 24-hours of golf and people actually make a living, as crazy as it sounds, covering golf tournaments. So there is hope out there. In the mean time, let's be thankful that there was national coverage, however spotty that may be, at all. I would like to thank CSTV for helping to promote the college lacrosse game in the first place.
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Re: I think Yoda said crawl before we can walk we must..

Postby Bluevelvet on Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:31 pm

KnoxVegas wrote:As for the coverage of the MDIA tournament in Blaine, I have to admit that I have not seen it yet. I can say that what an anthology show, which is what their coverage limited to an hour-long (actually less due to commercials), tries to do is a give a flavor of the event. Be thankful that they were there to cover the event in the first place.


What has been posted is that due to poor editing, CSTV did not give a"flavor of the event". They could have edited the raw footage differently and given viewers a better "taste".
Something is better than nothing, but if you are going to condense a 2 hour lacrosse game down to 40 minutes plus commercials, at least cover the important parts of the game.
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