Breaking News -- NY Governor Linked to Prostitution Ring

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Postby Jac Coyne on Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:29 am

Dan Wishengrad wrote:This is no different than self-righteous Republicans who publicly blast Democrats for being immoral sinners (David Vitter, Newt Gingrich et al) while carrying on their own secret affairs and/or perversions (Larry Craig). Those who live in glass houses but love to throw stones.


So just because Barney Frank (D-Mass.) has never said prostitution is a bad thing it makes it okay for him to look the other way while his live-in companion (whose alias is "Hot Bottom") runs a male prostitution ring out of his Georgetown house?

And just because Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) doesn't rail against drunk driving it makes it okay for him to do it and murder a woman in the process?

And just because Gary Studds (D-Mass) never said it was repugnant for a Congressman to force his male page to have sex with him it is somehow okay?

And these are just the ones I know of from my home state.

The first two are still the posterboys for the Democratic party (Studds - RIP). Why? Because liberals believe if they, or their representatives, aren't openly hypocritical while flagrantly breaking the law, it puts them on some sort of bizarro moral high ground. It certainly gives them a free pass in the media.

Frankly, I'll be surprised if Spitzer resigns. No one can blur reality like a Democrat.
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Postby LaxRef on Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:47 am

Jana wrote:Should prostitution be illegal in this country? I certainly wouldn't want my s.o. to visit one, but given the modern human trafficking, would it be better to regulate it to remove the secrecy?


I'm a big believer that whatever consenting adults want to do should be legal. BOCTAOE.

As far as prostitution, it will never be a great job, but it would be a whole lot better if the pimps were taken out of the equation and if there were some regulation.
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Postby Dan Wishengrad on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:45 pm

Jac Coyne wrote:So just because Barney Frank (D-Mass.) has never said prostitution is a bad thing it makes it okay for him to look the other way while his live-in companion (whose alias is "Hot Bottom") runs a male prostitution ring out of his Georgetown house?


Nope, not okay. But Rep. Frank has never been known to publicly denounce the sins of others while hiding his own sexual orientation. There is a difference. If he knew what his roomie was up to, he was wrong not to condemn it... but if you don't get the difference, my friend, you need to look up the word "hypocrisy" in the dictionary.

And just because Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) doesn't rail against drunk driving it makes it okay for him to do it and murder a woman in the process?


Man you are really grasping at straws here, Jac. First, this shameful incident happened almost forty years ago. Second, Kennedy made an awful decision to flee the scene with poor Mary Jo drowned in his car -- but murder? C'mon be honest, this is both inaccurate and grossly unfair. Has Sen. Kennedy led a public life of condemning others for adultery and drinking, like Dan Burton, Larry Craig and other GOP hypocrites have done? Not.

I think you need to let go of the hatred you have in your heart, Jac, which you so proudly and fiercely display here for those of us on the other side of the political fence from you. We Democrats are not all evil miscreants deserving of your scorn and derision while you see no wrong from those on your own "team". There are good, decent people on both sides of the political divide -- and there are hypocrites on both sides, too. Spitzer has sure proven this to be a fact.

No one can blur reality like a Democrat.


Hmmm, I'd say our President has displayed a remarkable detachment from reality for the past eight years. From insisting there were WMDs in Iraq, to denying global warming and evolution, to saying that Americans don't torture while ordering waterboarding, to insisting that the economy is in great shape and that we're not headed to recession and on and on and on.

Luckily Senator McCain -- a decent and honorable public servant -- is about to embark on a general election campaign to continue virtually all of Bush's policies unchanged. We shall see in November if the majority of Americans vote to agree with him, and which political party is the one in serious denial.
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Postby jessexy on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:56 pm

anybody else notice he was noticed from "Federal wire taps"???? wonder if those were taken legally and under what pretense? i hope they were investigating the prostitution ring and he just got caught up rather than them spying on him through some other means of government oversight.....
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Postby primetime21 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:58 pm

just so im clear on this, there is no lacrosse players involved in this right??

excuse me....allegedly involved in this
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Postby Ryan Hanavan on Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:01 pm

LaxRef wrote:I'm a big believer that whatever consenting adults want to do should be legal. BOCTAOE.


If ACC Referee Ron Cherry was making this call would he say that Gov. Spitzer was giving her the business?
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Postby LaxRef on Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:26 pm

Ryan Hanavan wrote:
LaxRef wrote:I'm a big believer that whatever consenting adults want to do should be legal. BOCTAOE.


If ACC Referee Ron Cherry was making this call would he say that Gov. Spitzer was giving her the business?


Giving her the business "down there," I think.

And the Ron Cherry call was a riff on legendary NFL official Ben Dreith. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Dreith

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eslz06J9hFw
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Postby Ryan Hanavan on Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:41 pm

LaxRef wrote:And the Ron Cherry call was a riff on legendary NFL official Ben Dreith. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Dreith

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eslz06J9hFw


Thanks LaxRef, I couldn't remember his name.
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Postby Sonny on Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:49 pm

jessexy wrote:anybody else notice he was noticed from "Federal wire taps"???? wonder if those were taken legally and under what pretense?


Because the case involved people and cash moving across state lines.
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Postby BigheadTodd on Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:58 pm

I heard that Spitzers bank called the FBI because they noticed large withdrawls from his account and thought he may have been blackmailed.
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Postby CATLAX MAN on Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:21 pm

Dan Wishengrad wrote:The fact that Spitzer is a Democrat doesn't change the fact that he is this exact kind of hypocrite. His career is over, he is finished -- expect a resignation any minute. Curious though that Craig and Vitter continue to serve in the U.S. Senate, isn't it?


Just like Clinton served out his term as President....... :roll:
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Postby Jac Coyne on Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:36 pm

Dan Wishengrad wrote:I think you need to let go of the hatred you have in your heart, Jac, which you so proudly and fiercely display here for those of us on the other side of the political fence from you.


Funny stuff. I'm the hateful one and you've somehow brought Bush into this (as usual) out of nowhere. Your rage against Bush borders on pathologic, but because I dare counter your posits I'm the bad guy. Whatever gets you through the day.

First, this shameful incident happened almost forty years ago. Second, Kennedy made an awful decision to flee the scene with poor Mary Jo drowned in his car


This should bring her family great solace: the "40 Years" and "Awful Decision" defense. You should pen the Kopechne family a letter and tell them to lighten up.

Also, you completely missed my point, which was just because you're not hypocrite doesn't mean it is okay to break the law, which Democrats have done with equal frequency as Reps and have also held their jobs. Heck, William Jefferson was caught with $90-large in his freezer and is still claiming innocence.

As for Spitzer, his wife didn't have that same medicated smile of denial that Larry Craig's wife had. Spitzer's wife looked ticked, and I don't envision her sticking around too long.
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Postby Dan Wishengrad on Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:52 pm

Jac Coyne wrote:
Dan Wishengrad wrote:I think you need to let go of the hatred you have in your heart, Jac, which you so proudly and fiercely display here for those of us on the other side of the political fence from you.


Funny stuff. I'm the hateful one and you've somehow brought Bush into this (as usual) out of nowhere. Your rage against Bush borders on pathologic, but because I dare counter your posits I'm the bad guy. Whatever gets you through the day.


I brought up W. because of your coda, Jac, where you said we Dems are the ones to blur reality. Isn't President Bush the leader of your party and it's standard bearer? When you accuse the other side of blurring reality it stands to reason that one should compare the accused to the accuser. If the truth hurts, so be it, and whatever gets you through the day is fine by me too. :lol:

For the record, I don't hate Bush, whether you think my rage is pathological or not. I do think he has been perhaps the worst President in our nation's history. I look forward to Senator McCain running proudly on Bush's record and to continue this administration's policies essentially unchanged. Can't wait for that campaign, in fact!

But re-read all your own posts, my friend -- you treat all Democrats with consistent scorn and derision, and your seething hatred comes though loud and clear. But I sure don't hate you, my friend. And I look forward to our coming verbal battles through the election.
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Postby Jac Coyne on Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:23 pm

Dan Wishengrad wrote:But I sure don't hate you, my friend. And I look forward to our coming verbal battles through the election.


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Postby Jolly Roger on Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:34 pm

Dan,

Get the Boise state kid to photoshop and animate this one - quick.
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