1st round picks

The 2013 tournament returns to Greenville, SC this May.

Postby Ballin' on Tue May 08, 2007 1:41 am

HNL, i think that last post just made my day
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Postby BigheadTodd on Tue May 08, 2007 2:36 am

Outstanding... Right up there with the ACT scores gag from last year.
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Postby coloaglax63 on Tue May 08, 2007 3:44 am

i'll take any seed as long as im in the tourney, but with that said, i think A&M could move up one or two spots. Does that matter in this case? who knows. But i do believe that wins are wins and lindenwood has 9 A&M 13... lindenwood did not beat one team in the tourney a&m did... thats all
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Postby norway on Tue May 08, 2007 12:25 pm

I'm going with BC and NE over michigan and arizona as well. I still dont think michigan has proven anything, and arizona has not been consistant all year. Other winners: BYU, CSU, ASU, UMD, OU, and UCSB.
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Postby Duffy34 on Tue May 08, 2007 12:30 pm

gotta go with bc over Ariz. but Mich over NE. other than that i think most higher seeds will win first round. CU over ASU, lots of people are going with ASU. CU didnt play well and still beat them at ASU earlier this year and have many guys from last years team that made it to the finals so they are tourney tested. I am not disrespecting A&M but BYU will win by double digits. The 2nd round, personally, will be the best round of the whole tourney. the UMD and Sanoma will be a good one as well.
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Postby norway on Tue May 08, 2007 12:37 pm

I saw Michigan last yr at nationals and was not impressed. I don't know what the deal was, but the fact is they didn't perform. They flat out choked. People had them picked to win the whole thing. I know this is a new yr, but if I only have last yr to go off of for their tournement performance. So, I'm going w/ NE. FSU was flat out bad last yr too.
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Postby sohotrightnow on Tue May 08, 2007 12:38 pm

I'm going with BC and NE over michigan and arizona as well. I still dont think michigan has proven anything, and arizona has not been consistant all year


I think Arizona has been very consistent. They lost to one team ranked below them and four teams ranked above them. Outside of BYU and UCSB, Arizona was the only team that dominated ASU, which was hardly an easy feat this year.
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Postby JerzWB on Tue May 08, 2007 12:41 pm

norway wrote:Arizona has not been consistant all year.


WHAT? Other than the NE loss they have been a very consistent and dangerous team. I am not picking on you, others have been saying the same thing.

In order:
Loss #1 BYU by 7
Win Chapman by 1
Win #20 Utah by 2
Win #23 Illinois by by 7
Win #14 Lindenwood by 6
Loss #13 NE by 6
Win #16 TAMU 5
Loss #7 Colorado by 2
Loss #3 Oregon by 1
Win #10 ASU by 7
Win #11 Sonoma by 10
Loss #5 UCSB by 2

That looks pretty clear to me. 6-5 vs current top 25, 0-4 vs current top 10.
I completly disagree with the consistent statment. I think that BC is a very similar team. It should be a great game, but I see U of A coming out on top by 4
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Postby JerzWB on Tue May 08, 2007 12:42 pm

sohotrightnow wrote:
I'm going with BC and NE over michigan and arizona as well. I still dont think michigan has proven anything, and arizona has not been consistant all year


I think Arizona has been very consistent. They lost to one team ranked below them and four teams ranked above them. Outside of BYU and UCSB, Arizona was the only team that dominated ASU, which was hardly an easy feat this year.


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Postby norway on Tue May 08, 2007 12:47 pm

I see your argument, but they are not playing ASU. They are playing BC. A team that is not known nationally. I don't know about you, but if I am a coach I would be more concerned w/ a team that everyone knows little about than a team that can easily be scouted. But hey, we all have our pics...we'll see whose the closest soon enough.
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Postby sohotrightnow on Tue May 08, 2007 12:56 pm

So you are retracting your statement that they have been inconsistent, I presume?
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Postby Ravaging Beast on Tue May 08, 2007 1:23 pm

norway wrote:I see your argument, but they are not playing ASU. They are playing BC. A team that is not known nationally. I don't know about you, but if I am a coach I would be more concerned w/ a team that everyone knows little about than a team that can easily be scouted. But hey, we all have our pics...we'll see whose the closest soon enough.

I'm pretty sure Arizona can get their hands on some film of BC. They did play a few games out west. And WCLL coaches tend to share film on other teams.
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Postby norway on Tue May 08, 2007 1:27 pm

Nope. Thanks for posting the scores of their season. Some of those scores validate what I think to be inconsistent. Win by 1 to unranked chapman and a 2 goal win over Utah. I know teams have good games and bad, and a win is a win. I stand by my opinion.
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Postby JerzWB on Tue May 08, 2007 2:04 pm

norway wrote:Win by 1 to unranked chapman and a 2 goal win over Utah.

I keep Chapman in there because they "would" be ranked and I still count it as a quality win. I know there has been discussion about this issue and some see it different. They (Chapman) have played many of the top teams in the MCLA and even though not in the polls, are good for comparison purposes (vs an NCAA team not in our polls that has played only one or two MCLA teams).
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Postby sohotrightnow on Tue May 08, 2007 2:19 pm

Nope. Thanks for posting the scores of their season. Some of those scores validate what I think to be inconsistent. Win by 1 to unranked chapman and a 2 goal win over Utah. I know teams have good games and bad, and a win is a win. I stand by my opinion.


I see them being "inconsistent" at one point this entire year, when they lost to Northeastern, who went on to have a good year. Maybe in your world, lower ranked teams are supposed to beat higher ranked teams throughout the year on a regular basis and, in addition, administer 10+ goal beatings to teams ranked below them every time they play. I am not familiar with such an alternate universe though. I mean, seriously, you could say that almost every team that plays a tough schedule is inconsistent. UCSB, Oregon, ASU, CU, and Florida would all fall under your umbrella definition.

FWIW, Utah beat UMD and UCSB. I'd say a win over Utah is a good win, not a great win. Chapman, for all their problems, beat Utah and UCSB, and would have hosted a WCLL playoff game had they not been ruled ineligible. Arizona beat them as well, so I don't see how that can be construed as a "bad" win. I know you are sticking to your guns and hate being proven wrong, but your argument is suspect at best.
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