Ann Coulter

[grinderpete]

These boards are a lot more fun when they are politized.

Which reminds me - The RMLC is the best conference in the MDIA, and will continue to be so for the next ten years. In fact, the other 8 conferences cant even hold a candle to the Rockies!!!

[Steno]

oh blah blah blah, mr pete

Anyway, does anyone else think it is absurd how Dubya is attacking gay marriage and flag burning at a time when maybe he should be addressing the increased insugencies in Southern Afghanistan (sp?).

Oh yeah, I think Michael Moore is a dink as well.


all these dinks dinking up our government...

[mbuff]

I'm pretty conservative and served 6 years of active duty with the US Army if you really want bona fides. Ann Coulter is a publicity whore and nothing else. If the Pope decided she was the Anti-Christ, she would not need the camera a la Dan Brown.

Ms Coulter has a J.D. from Michigan and is touted as a constitutional attorney but only practiced corporate law (4 years) and then was a congressional aide. I wonder if she can help us sue the #!*% that took all of our personal information home on his laptop that was subsequently stolen. Somehow I doubt it because the government is infallable in her mind.

As for Murtha, he has a very selective memory. Sure he remembers that he was a Marine but he seems to forget his little qid pro quo with the fake Arabs in the ABSCAM sting. Murtha sold out long ago.

[sohotrightnow]

Yes, I am so against gay marriage! That is what I am talking about! It is such a vital topic...much more important than Iraq or Afghanistan or this so-called "war on terror". I forget where it says in the Constitution that only men and women can be a "married" couple, but it sounds like a good idea to me! How dare these "people" want to have the same rights as respectable, law-abiding, moral, conservative, white Republicans!!! Shame on them! I mean, look at the the great record of Republican marriages...these households are much safer than gay households...don't let the liberal media fool you! My good friend Sam Brownback even has stats to prove that civil unions lead to higher drug use and higher crime rates.

Ronald Reagan - divorced the mother of two of his children to marry Nancy Reagan, who bore him a daughter only 7 months after the marriage.

Bob Dole - divorced the mother of his child, who had nursed him through the long recovery from his war wounds.

Newt Gingrich - divorced his wife who was dying of cancer. A regular Fox News contributor who always denounces the left as having no moral fiber. Sure Newt.

Dick Armey - House Majority Leader - divorced

Sen. Phil Gramm of Texas - divorced

Gov. John Engler of Michigan - divorced

Gov. Pete Wilson of California - divorced

George Will - divorced

Sen. Lauch Faircloth - divorced

Rush Limbaugh - Rush and his current wife Marta have six marriages and four divorces between them.

Rep. Bob "I am against abortion unless I impregnate my mistress, then it is ok" Barr of Georgia - Barr, not yet 50 years old, has been married three times. Barr had the audacity to author and push the "Defense of Marriage Act." The current joke making the rounds on Capitol Hill is "Bob Barr...WHICH marriage are you defending?!?

Sen. Alfonse D'Amato of New York - divorced

Sen. John Warner of Virginia - divorced (once married to Liz Taylor.)

Gov. George Allen of Virginia - divorced

Henry Kissinger - divorced

Rep. Helen Chenoweth of Idaho - divorced

Sen. John McCain of Arizonia - divorced

Rep. John Kasich of Ohio - divorced

Rep. Susan Molinari of New York - Republican National Convention Keynote Speaker - divorced

[Sonny]

Ms Coulter has a J.D. from Michigan and is touted as a constitutional attorney but only practiced corporate law (4 years) and then was a congressional aide. I wonder if she can help us sue the #!*% that took all of our personal information home on his laptop that was subsequently stolen. Somehow I doubt it because the government is infallable in her mind.

What does Coulter have to do with the IRS getting his laptop stolen? And when did she ever claim the govt. is infallable?

[StrykerFSU]

At the risk of drifting further off the topic of Crazy Ann, sohotrightnow, I don't the gay marriage amendment has anything to do with concerns about divorce. And with a divorce rate at what, 60%? I don't think it's very instructional to trot out a list of heterosexual Republican politicians as evidence of the constituionality of the proposed amendment.

I feel that gay marriage, much like abortion, should be a state issue decided upon by the voters of a state. You're right, it is not in the Constitution and nor should it be. One fact that seems to get left out of this debate is that in every state where gay marriage has been on the ballot, it has been voted down. That being said, I find it hard to condemn Pres. Bush for support a ban when the evidence is in and it would seem that most Americans are for a ban...those heartless, ignorant heathens.

Back to Crazy Ann, I enjoyed her early books like "Slander" and "Treason" because I felt that they offered accounts of historical events like Watergate and the McCarthy hearings from a different viewpoint then say Oliver Stone or whoever it was that made that Roy Cohn movie. Needless to say, my own exposure to American Contemporary History would not be called fair and balanced. So I thought she was a nice counterpoint with the truth probably somewhere in the middle. Now, I think she is nothing more than another shrill voice in the cacophony of BS that passes for political debate these days. She does as much disservice to her supposed cause as Michael Moore and Al Franken do to theirs.

[OAKS]

If segregation had been left in the hands of the states, where would we be today?

Also, just because the majority wants something doesn't necessarily make it right.

[sohotrightnow]

I would like to say that she is not as bad as Moore and Franken, but she is as bad, and then some. Franken and Moore are not overt racists! Do I really need to bring out a laundry list of Coulter's quotes? Oh, I forgot, she is a political satirist, not a racist.

[Tim Whitehead]

At the risk of drifting further off the topic of Crazy Ann, sohotrightnow, I don't the gay marriage amendment has anything to do with concerns about divorce. And with a divorce rate at what, 60%? I don't think it's very instructional to trot out a list of heterosexual Republican politicians as evidence of the constituionality of the proposed amendment.

The reason that this is relevant is because so many polticians opposing gay marriage like to bring up the "sanctity" of marriage and how gay marriages will ruin this. They mention that the best way to raise a family is in a stable, two parent household. If they were really so concerned about those issues, would they be getting divorced themselves?

[StrykerFSU]

sohotrightnow, I hope you didn't get the impression that I was defending her because I am most certainly not. She has the right to say whatever she wants but then it is up to her to deal with the consequences. Of course, those fat checks she cashes probably make it a little easier. The parallel I was attempting to draw with Moore and folks of that ilk was that their extremist hate rhetoric, be it hate for Pres. Bush or hate for Sen. Kennedy, gets in the way of legitimate discourse and only serves to further polarize our society. I see it especially in the kids on campus. Students today think that you are evil if you have differing political beliefs and that is a shame.

I think that people have a problem with gay marriage because of the religious connotations that come with that word. I would speculate that the majority of folks who believe themselves to be religious are more inclined to believe that God might have a problem with such an arrangement. That's for everybody to decide on their own. On the flipside, from what I understand of the gay marriage movement the major goals are equal rights as a married couple in instances of taxes, insurance payouts, expectations of privacy, and matters of that nature. In my mind, all of those issues could be more than adequately covered by civil unions while avoiding the hot button of "marriage". Again, I believe that this is a matter for the voters of individual states to decide.

[StrykerFSU]

Charles Krauthammer from today's Washington Post:

On Wednesday the Senate fell 18 votes short of the two-thirds majority that would have been required to pass a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/08/AR2006060801535.html

[DanGenck]

There are numerous times in history when groups or people are immune to criticism because of their circumstances. I am not saying the behavior is excused, but it happens by both sides of the political spectrum.

[Steno]

I just saw this great interview by John Stewart with Bill Bennet, an opposer to equal rights for gays (such as marriage).

Stewart pointed out that, through out history, freedom has been challenged, yet the free have always won. In the fight against slavery, freedom eventually. In the fight for suffrage for women, it had its opponents, but eventual women were allowed the rigth to vote. In the civil rights movement, many people were against desegragation, but eventually they too lost that battle.

Isn't this battle for the rights of gay men and women to marry just the next step in making the US the most free nation in the world, a bastion of hope again bigotry and hatred?

[Sonny]

While everyone is dumping on Ann... Does anyone dispute her point that the Jersey Girls shouldn't be immune from debate on their politcal points just because they are so-called "victims"?

[sohotrightnow]

Perhaps. However, how do we know that there aren't women who lost husbands on 9/11 that speak out in support of Bush? I imagine there are a couple at least! Why has the left not spoke out against them I wonder? Maybe they aren't as heartless as Coulter is?

I don't think people have a huge issue with Coulter calling them out...the problem is, Coulter says they are essentially happy that their husbands died. I quote "they would much rather be 4 million dollars richer (as they are now) than have their husbands alive." Excuse me? I am sorry, but you would never see this type of vitriol coming from the left when it comes to the victims of the 9/11 tragedy.