Mock Post Season Poll

by **Woda** on Sun May 14, 2006 8:40 pm

1. CSU
2. Colorado
3. BYU
4. Michigan
5. UCSB
6. Arizona
7. Sonoma
8. Oregon
9. UC San Diego
10. Minn - Duluth
11. Oakland
12. Utah
13. Cal - Poly
14. Lindenwood
15. Florida State
16. North Eastern
17-25. is a crap shoot

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by **UofMLaxGoalie11** on Sun May 14, 2006 8:49 pm

Seems decent, but I think Cal Poly should be higher due to their great showing at the tournament this year. Perhaps pushing them up to 9th would be more appropriate in my opinion.

by **cjwilhelmi** on Sun May 14, 2006 9:27 pm

Are you taking consolation games into effect for this poll?

by **lil lady lax fan** on Mon May 15, 2006 12:03 am

Why is Michigan ranked above UCSB? UCSB made it into the final four, Michigan didn't. I'd probably switch those two around. I would also switch around Sonoma and Arizona--Sonoma beat them in the league championship. 11, 12, 13 would be Cal Poly, Oakland, Utah. Other than that, looks good.

by **Champ** on Mon May 15, 2006 9:18 am

cjwilhelmi wrote:Are you taking consolation games into effect for this poll?

Why wouldn't he?

by **Sonny** on Mon May 15, 2006 9:53 am

Champ wrote:
cjwilhelmi wrote:Are you taking consolation games into effect for this poll?

Why wouldn't he?

Because most MDIA programs don't compete with all of their top talent after losing in the tournament. Some teams switch things up to get new players on the field in the consolation bracket games.

by **yourmom** on Mon May 15, 2006 10:22 am

Alright so if Consolation games are a part of this whats up with Oregon being so high after losing to Lindenwood, who had lost to Minn-Duluth?

by **Sonny** on Mon May 15, 2006 10:25 am

yourmom wrote:Alright so if Consolation games are a part of this whats up with Oregon being so high after losing to Lindenwood, who had lost to Minn-Duluth?

Don't get so uptight. It's WODA's version of a Mock (key word is Mock) Post Season MDIA poll.

by **yourmom** on Mon May 15, 2006 10:43 am

Sonny wrote:
yourmom wrote:Alright so if Consolation games are a part of this whats up with Oregon being so high after losing to Lindenwood, who had lost to Minn-Duluth?

Don't get so uptight. It's WODA's version of a Mock (key word is Mock) Post Season MDIA poll.

The problem with e-mails and online posting is conveyance of tone always gets messed up. Not trying to get up tight just providing a little feedback. Everyone has thier own version, but when I post mine up I am doing so to get feedback and have people tell me what they believe I have missed or overlooked (which is probably alot). Wasn't trying to be critical just throwing that out there. If it sounded harsh I apologize, It was not meant that way.

by the way i don't think i could put together a poll outside of the top 4 for now so kudos to him.

by **Champ** on Mon May 15, 2006 11:18 am

Sonny wrote:
Champ wrote:
cjwilhelmi wrote:Are you taking consolation games into effect for this poll?

Why wouldn't he?

Because most MDIA programs don't compete with all of their top talent after losing in the tournament. Some teams switch things up to get new players on the field in the consolation bracket games.

It's still the only way to determine poll position. (for the teams that didn't pass first round)

by **Sonny** on Mon May 15, 2006 11:23 am

Champ wrote:
Sonny wrote:
Champ wrote:
cjwilhelmi wrote:Are you taking consolation games into effect for this poll?

Why wouldn't he?

Because most MDIA programs don't compete with all of their top talent after losing in the tournament. Some teams switch things up to get new players on the field in the consolation bracket games.

It's still the only way to determine poll position. (for the teams that didn't pass first round)

I would think the whole body of work (entire season's results) would make more sense then 2 consolation bracket games when making that poll position comparison.

Furthermore, I think the trend is to eliminate or minimize the consolation games. I've seen firsthand the disappointment of teams who lose at the tournament. I think teams that lose should take a day off and play one final consolation bracket game at the national tournament. Makes things easier on the teams involved, the referees, tourney staff, & the media.

by **Bluevelvet** on Mon May 15, 2006 11:27 am

Just as an example, I spotted Sonoma all american goalie, Warren Pringle, playing attack/midfield for Sonoma against Michigan. I'm sure that Michigan treated the game in a similar vein. How can you rely on a game like that to determine poll position?
As far as a final poll is concerned, the 8 teams that won their first game are the top 8. The 4 teams that won their quarter final games are the top 4. Teams that didn't go to the tournament do not advance based on tournament teams losing consolation games.

by **NomaBlueCollar** on Mon May 15, 2006 2:57 pm

As said in one of his championship blogs...

MandibleS4L wrote:Winning those games is like winning a drunken relay race- no one remembers and the loser was probably having more fun beforehand

they are in no way a measure of a team's true level of play. oh and i wish i could have seen that bluevelvet, Pringle's got some wheels!

by **Bluevelvet** on Mon May 15, 2006 4:13 pm

1. CSU
2. Colorado
3. BYU they were ranked higher than UCSB coming in.
4. UCSB although they could be #3 because they beat BYU and had a closer game (one goal) with Colorado than BYU did with CSU.
5. Sonoma lost by one in the last 4 seconds.
6. Michigan lost badly to BYU
7. Arizona stayed with CSU for most of the game.
8. Cal Poly upset #6 FSU
9. Oregon beat UCSD
10. UCSD
11. UMD
12. Oakland
13. FSU
14. Utah
15. Lindenwood
16. Northeastern
17. Texas

by **NomaBlueCollar** on Mon May 15, 2006 5:59 pm

Bluevelvet wrote:1. CSU
2. Colorado
3. BYU they were ranked higher than UCSB coming in.
4. UCSB although they could be #3 because they beat BYU and had a closer game (one goal) with Colorado than BYU did with CSU.
5. Sonoma lost by one in the last 4 seconds.
6. Michigan lost badly to BYU
7. Arizona stayed with CSU for most of the game.
8. Cal Poly upset #6 FSU
9. Oregon beat UCSD
10. UCSD
11. UMD
12. Oakland
13. FSU
14. Utah
15. Lindenwood
16. Northeastern
17. Texas

looks good, thats probably how i'd vote also