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SELC Week 5: 2/28 - 3/6 (Discuss Games/Report Scores)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 am
by Beta
A Division

Wed Feb-28 Michigan 14 @ FSU 7
Wed Feb-28 UNCC 6 @ Wake Forest 11
Thur Mar-1 East Carolina 10 @ NC State 6
Friday Mar-2 Florida @ Georgia
Friday Mar-2 Wake Forest @ Tennessee
Saturday Mar-3 Georgia Tech @ Auburn
Saturday Mar-3 Michigan State @ Central Florida
Saturday Mar-3 FSU @ Miami
Saturday Mar-3 Michigan State @ Central Florida
Saturday Mar-3 South Florida @ Clemson
Saturday Mar-3 East Carolina @ South Carolina
Sunday Mar-4 Kennesaw State @ Central Florida
Sunday Mar-4 South Florida @ Auburn
Sunday Mar-4 Citadel @ South Carolina
Sunday Mar-4 Coastal Carolina @ Clemson
Sunday Mar-4 Pittsburgh @ Wake Forest
Sunday Mar-4 Virginia Tech @ Florida State (@ Boca Raton)
Tue Mar-6 Stonehill @ Auburn
Tue Mar-6 Michigan State @ Florida
Tue Mar-6 Pittsburgh @ Miami

Michigan @ FSU, Florida @ Georgia and VT @ FSU are going to be HUGE games.

B Division

Friday Mar-2 Alabama @ Tulane
Saturday Mar-3 Alabama @ LSU
Saturday Mar-3 Elon @ App State
Saturday Mar-3 Southern Virginia @ UNCC
Saturday Mar-3 Kennesaw State @ Eckerd
Sunday Mar-4 Emory @ Eckerd

Elon @ App State, Kennesaw State @ Eckerd Emory @ Eckerd are very big games. Both KSU and Emory are Eckerd's first tests of the year to see if they can repeat last year's success.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:33 am
by Sonny
I believe the VT/FSU game will be played in Boca Raton (not Tally).

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:45 am
by Beta
Mmm, the rat's mouth...noted.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:38 pm
by Vols2
I believe Sat.'s FSU v. Miami game is also in the rat's mouth (different h.s. though.)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:50 pm
by Kevin OBrien
Citadel has forfieted against USC and the game won't be played. This is the second game that USC has had canceled on us this semester, after the scheduling deadline.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:06 pm
by laxilicious
MSU @ UCF is officially on for 3pm.

FSU vs MICHIGAN

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:22 pm
by GeorgiaLacrosse
MICHIGAN won 14-7

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:43 pm
by Sonny
Kevin OBrien wrote:Citadel has forfieted against USC and the game won't be played. This is the second game that USC has had canceled on us this semester, after the scheduling deadline.


Kevin,

Based on past experiences, I don't think USC is in any shape to throw rocks at another glass house.

That being said, these issues are best left for offline discussion with the SELC Exec. Board.

Re: FSU vs MICHIGAN

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:21 pm
by Hugh Nunn
GeorgiaLacrosse wrote:MICHIGAN won 14-7


Not a bad game. Michigan looks sharp. First team all season to get more groundballs than the 'Noles. Lots of hustle at every position, solid goaltending...made good position saves even after the Seminoles started bouncing their shots. Eventually, Michigan's stronger fundamentals did the trick.

FSU could have definitely played better, but just needs to tighten up the shot group a bit. There were moments that they were brilliant...moving the ball well, anticipating well, clearing patiently, always hustling. Lots to work on, but also a game to build from. Good luck next week in Boca!

PS. I officially hate the new stick check rules. Too many interuptions. I know you were all wondering where I was on that one.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:34 pm
by WFUBenchwarmer
Final from Winston Salem:
Wake 11
UNCC 6


Thanks to UNCC for making it out.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:30 pm
by Kevin OBrien
Sonny wrote:
Kevin OBrien wrote:Citadel has forfieted against USC and the game won't be played. This is the second game that USC has had canceled on us this semester, after the scheduling deadline.


Kevin,

Based on past experiences, I don't think USC is in any shape to throw rocks at another glass house.

That being said, these issues are best left for offline discussion with the SELC Exec. Board.


I didn't pass any judgements, I just said what other teams have said in these threads. For other games, you've asked why. In this case, we're not supposed to say anything?

I also wasn't coach or a player when those forfiets happened. Furthermore, if you don't like the way I posted this notification, I'd appreciate a private message rather than airing whatever ill feelings you have about my team (stemming from at least two years ago) rather than calling us (and me) out publicly for something that last happenened when the vast majority (42 out of 50) weren't even here.

Different time, different team.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:32 pm
by John Paul
The MCLA plays by the NCAA rule book. NCAA rulebook page 31: Rule 3, Section 8.

Just to clarify, a team that cancels a game, for any reason, does not forfeit. Neither team should count the game as a win or a loss. It's recorded as a "no contest."

Your conference may have administrative penalties for a team that cancels a game, but statistically and for the record it's a no contest.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:41 pm
by asulax
asu vs. elon cancelled due to rain, neither team can host the game

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:59 am
by Kevin OBrien
John Paul wrote:The MCLA plays by the NCAA rule book. NCAA rulebook page 31: Rule 3, Section 8.

Just to clarify, a team that cancels a game, for any reason, does not forfeit. Neither team should count the game as a win or a loss. It's recorded as a "no contest."

Your conference may have administrative penalties for a team that cancels a game, but statistically and for the record it's a no contest.


The Citadel's sports club administration notified us that they had forfeited and used that exact word.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:29 am
by John Paul
Gotcha. Still can't be a forfeit though.

From the rule: "An institution shall not, for statistical purposes, declare a forfeit for nonfulfillment of a contract. Such instances shall be considered a "no contest.""

Forfeits don't happen unless the two teams are present and the officials have taken charge of the game. Reasons could be: a team running out of players during the game, excessive unsportsmanlike conduct by one of the teams or the home crowd, use of ineligible players discovered after the fact (thereby changing the result to forfeit)...things like that.

I know cancellations happen all to often at our level. They are simply cancellations, not forfeits. Your only recourse right now is to hope that the offending team's conference has penalties for their teams that cancel games. Of course, you can also be active at your conference meetings to not admit marginal teams. On a national level, we'll be working this summer on a policy that will cover all game cancellations, including interconference games.