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Coaches getting penalties
Posted:
Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:24 pm
by beckner11
culax wrote:one of these goals was scored after i was flagged for arguing a non-call in the 2nd quarter. .
After reading that, I'm wondering which coach has been known to get the most flags during a game or what the best reason for getting a flag has been.
I'm sure the A teams know that my coach can get pretty heated but somehow has avoided any flags so far THIS year!
Posted:
Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:24 pm
by Arklax
Our coach picked up his first of the season this weekend versus Harding. Actually, he picked up two in that game.
Re: Coaches getting penalties
Posted:
Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:40 pm
by culax
beckner11 wrote:or what the best reason for getting a flag has been.
i politely asked whether i could be penalized for what i was thinking.
just kidding.
Posted:
Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:27 pm
by roolax45
we had a guy (not our coach) that used to play for us and helps out every once in a while get flagged for being out of the coaches box. it kind of upset me because a) he was not our coach (our coach stayed in the box the entire game) and b) they gave us absolutely no warning (technically they don't have to give a warning, but on something like that you would think they would).
Posted:
Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:29 pm
by Matt_Gardiner
Surprisingly enough, I have been coaching for over five years in the MDIA and have never once been flagged. I have been warned many times, but somehow have managed to avoid the flag.
I owe much of my ability to avoid the flag on the CCLA officials. I would ride them pretty hard and they would give coaches a decent amount of slack, but they would always clearly tell you when it was time to stop. Then I would break eye contact and back away.
I no longer ride officials like I used to. I was pretty aggressive a few years ago. I was also much more animated on the sidelines. I would even yell at other coaches to get their players in line, if I was upset about the way their team was playing. I guess I have just lost my edge in my old age.
Posted:
Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:24 am
by danza
i can completely understand the arkansas coach yelling this weekend... i know why he was flagged and he was right both times... not about a missed call but about something that should just not happen in lacrosse behind a play... every team has that guy they cant control and sometimes neither can the referees... sorry... i would have probably gotten tossed for that...
i was actually almost tossed from the games this weekend for questioning the referee one too many times... i might start carrying a rule book on the field so i dont have to ask... i just wanna play lacrosse but i wanna do it by the rules... and all three coaches agreed this weekend... we need more new england refs down here... they just let em play...
Posted:
Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:06 am
by Jay Wisnieski
Matt_Gardiner wrote:I have been warned many times, but somehow have managed to avoid the flag.
You get warnings? The only time I've been flagged was when I said, "Oh, come on!" when I didn't think the slash called on my player was actually a slash. I didn't yell directly at the officials (I turned my back to the field and said it to my players), I didn't use any inappropriate language, and I hadn't been saying anything to the refs all game long, but I got flagged for it. One would think that I'd at least get a warning to keep my comments to myself.
Posted:
Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:49 am
by benji
We had an incident where our coach was flagged twice in a 10 second span. I have to assume that the official mis-understood what he said, because if I recall correctly he said something like, "isn't that a penalty?" [flag], followed by, "why is that a penalty?" [flag]
It would have been pretty funny, actually, had we not gone two men-down because of it.
Posted:
Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:34 am
by laxfan25
benji wrote:We had an incident where our coach was flagged twice in a 10 second span. I have to assume that the official mis-understood what he said, because if I recall correctly he said something like, "isn't that a penalty?" [flag], followed by, "why is that a penalty?" [flag]
It would have been pretty funny, actually, had we not gone two men-down because of it.
Shouldn't that have been one man (in-home) for two minutes? Penalties were on the same team member.
Posted:
Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:26 pm
by LaxRef
laxfan25 wrote:benji wrote:We had an incident where our coach was flagged twice in a 10 second span. I have to assume that the official mis-understood what he said, because if I recall correctly he said something like, "isn't that a penalty?" [flag], followed by, "why is that a penalty?" [flag]
It would have been pretty funny, actually, had we not gone two men-down because of it.
Shouldn't that have been one man (in-home) for two minutes? Penalties were on the same team member.
See:
NCAA Rule 5 wrote:If a coach continues to be abusive after the penalty is assessed, the official may assess additional non-releasable penalties that shall be served by an additional attack player (see 7-4).
Posted:
Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:38 pm
by laxfan25
LaxRef wrote:laxfan25 wrote:benji wrote:We had an incident where our coach was flagged twice in a 10 second span. I have to assume that the official mis-understood what he said, because if I recall correctly he said something like, "isn't that a penalty?" [flag], followed by, "why is that a penalty?" [flag]
It would have been pretty funny, actually, had we not gone two men-down because of it.
Shouldn't that have been one man (in-home) for two minutes? Penalties were on the same team member.
See:
NCAA Rule 5 wrote:If a coach continues to be abusive after the penalty is assessed, the official may assess additional non-releasable penalties that shall be served by an additional attack player (see 7-4).
How do they even let me on the field??
Thanks, my man.
Posted:
Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:59 pm
by cjwilhelmi
As much as I rant and rave at/about officials down here in the south, I am happy to say that I am still flag free!
I have been warned once or twice though....
Posted:
Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:18 pm
by KnoxVegas
Whenever I get upset, I remember the words my mother-in-law said to me upon our moving to Moline: "Welcome to Western Illinois." I have yet to be flagged and I strictly enforce that myself and our speaking captain are the only two who address the refs, unless spoken to first.
Like two generations of Minnesota Twins fans, who have grown up thinking that baseball should be played indoors and in an atmosphere akin to the warehouse at the end of Indiana Jones and The Raiders of The Last Ark, some people believe that this is the way officiating should be. THe refs we had this past weekend were the "best" crew I have seen in my one plus years of coaching in the GRLC.
Until heaps of east coast transplants arrive arrive on their white horses to rescue the game, the officiating is what it is. Sure, I see slashes and cross-checks that go uncalled all the time. I see sloppy mechanics, too. Sure it would be great to have three refs at all games, not just the A games but this is the best we can do at this point. Money and bodies are at a premium. Not to make a blanket excuse for the refs, though.
Posted:
Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:39 pm
by Jolly Roger
Be sure to fill out your officials evaluations with these types of specific points. CAAs can use this info to shore up an official's weaker areas. I'd bet your CAA would love to have game tape to use in teaching as well. If you send it to them, they'll use it.
Posted:
Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:52 am
by beckner11
Speaking of teaching....is there any kind of training done, or in the works where officials from different conferences get together for extensive training sessions?
It seems that some of the officials we see between the GRLC and other conferences is like night and day (not specifying who is which one!!) in terms of mechanics and game management.