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LSA Week 8 (March 15th-21st)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:48 am
by Brent Burns
Wednesday, March 15

Texas vs. Chico State

Thursday, March 16

North Texas vs. Chapman
Texas Tech vs. UC San Diego

Saturday, March 18

North Texas vs. UCLA
Tulane at LSU

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:24 pm
by sohotrightnow
Texas 10
Chico 4

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:35 pm
by Brent Burns
sohotrightnow wrote:Texas 10
Chico 4


Must be the aura of Bucknell's stunning win over Maryland may have spread from the Eastern coast to the coast of Cali to wrap around Noah Fink in order to emnate from him to settle on his Texas players to pull an upset win over Chico. In fact, Noah is a proud member of the Bucknell herd. Anyway, that is a major win from a LSA team. Yet, we have to remember that Texas had played Chico before, so they may have gotten to know them better this time.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:28 am
by atxlax
After talking with a texas player , they played with a fire in their belly after their loss to an Inferior o s u team last nite. The Texas Defense was on top of their game and only allowed one goal in the second half. Bottom line it was a good game for Texas and a great day for the lsa. ps i dont think auras win Face offs.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:17 am
by primelax
Normally I just like to read the postings but that score has brought me out of my cave. Congrats to the Horns for pulling together to get it done against Chico!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:27 am
by LaxC21
Congrats to UT for pulling off some great OOC wins. Good luck to Tech and North Texas the rest of the week.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:49 pm
by shawnjohn
congrats UT, good luck to UNT against a very talented Chapman

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:07 pm
by JStoops
Any news on the UNT Chapman score?

Nice win for UT.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:16 am
by sohotrightnow
UCSD 16
Texas Tech 5

Nick Dean had around 5 goals or so, including one between the legs. Texas Tech's goalie (~14 saves in the game) kept the game close in the first half as Tech was only down 4-2 at the break. The second half was ugly though. UCSD scored 7 goals before Tech's offense had a possession in the 3rd quarter. For the game, I would say Tech only had about 15 shots and won only 2 face-offs. Mr. Chainsaw did not have a great game.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:10 am
by shawnjohn
sohotrightnow wrote:
Texas Tech's goalie (~14 saves in the game) kept the game close in the first half as Tech was only down 4-2 at the break.


Actually, Tech's goalie had 21 saves in the game, the majority of which were 1-on-1 saves.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:21 am
by Brent Burns
From the WCLL Forum

Chapman 16 UNT 5

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:58 am
by sohotrightnow
No, he did not have 21 saves. I specifically kept track because Tech has been inflating his saves all year long. When the ball hits the pipe, it is not a save. When the ball goes 5 feet wide of the goal, it is also not a save. Most of his saves were 1 on 1, but he did not have 21 saves.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:38 am
by Anderson
Perhaps, just perhaps he had 17-18 saves. Is it not entirely possible than both of you were not perfect in your stat keeping. Unless you were sitting in the cage you probably couldn't see everything happening on the field. I mean even if your were in different places on or sides of the field things can look different. Thats is why the have 3 refs when we play a game. From one side it could you could see a goalie make a save off his hand that then hits the pipe (which I believe qualifies as a save) while on the other all you see is it hitting pipe. The reverse is also true, where one person thought the ball hit the goalie and then went wide of cage where in fact it never hit him at all. I meant honestly the only person who really knows is the goalie trying to make the save and I'm sure he could care less about his stats. All that really matters is the W.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:09 am
by John Paul
An interesting side note to this discussion: I read an article last year (NY Times I think) that discussed stat keeping for Division 1 football. Even at the top schools, where this is a whole staff of people responsible for stat keeping, stats kept during the game are often wrong. They go back after the game and watch the film and correct them.

We've been doing the same thing for a few years now. Our stat people are very good, and we use statcrew software that helps a lot, but we still go through the film and make corrections. I'm sure most teams don't have the time or resources to do that, but if you do - it can get you a lot closer to reality.

All of that said, you still see some rediculous stats sometimes that are obviously incorrect. The problem is, unless you go back to the film, how do you correct them accurately? If someone is recorded as having made 50 saves, and you know that's not close, do you just throw an arbitrary 22 or something up there as a correction? Even if teams are not checking every stat, it's not a bad idea to go back and check the specific ones that stand out.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:36 am
by sohotrightnow
Perhaps he did have those saves. This has been going on all year though. 31 saves in one game, 22 saves in another game. It is borderline ridiciulous. The reason I bring it up is because other coaches around the country who have not seen him play are going to vote this guy as an All-American because of his gaudy numbers. He is a decent goalie, but you would think he is the next Quint Kessenich with the stats that are kept for him. One of Tech's players even PMed me and said that the goalie records the stats and does the write-ups!!! Rather convenient don't you think???