UMLL Tournament Schedule

[Chris Larson]

The 2008 UMLL Championship Tournament will be held again at the National Sports Center in Blaine Minnesota. Dates for the event are Friday April 25th-Sunday April 27th. The schedule is as follows:

Friday April 25th
1pm Division 1 Quarterfinals (#3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5)
4pm Division 2 Quarterfinals (#3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5)

Saturday April 26th
10 am Division 1 & 2 Consolation games
1pm Division 1 Semifinals
4pm Division 2 Semifinals

Sunday April 27th
10am Division 1 & 2 Third place games
1pm Division 1 Final
4pm Division 2 Final

[Gross]

Division 1 final first and Division 2 second? That's a change from years past isn't it??

[Chris Larson]

D2 will now finish the tourney on even numbered years and D1 on odd numbered years. D2 is not developmental so there's no reason we shouldn't alternate.

[Brew26]

Question for D2, All this is going by standings right now and that the better ranked team within the division will win the game against a lower rank.

1/2 seedings SJU/UST

With the snow cancellations, some teams will have less games than others in the league. Will this hurt them?

For 3/4, NDSU and UWEC are both at 3-1 but UWEC has 3 games and NDSU has 2 games left because SJU vs NDSU is not being made up as of yet. Also, NDSU and UWEC will not play each other.

So, UWEC has to play SJU which they are suppose to lose to and assume that UWEC wins the other 2 games and NDSU wins their two games. NDSU (5-1) gets 3rd place and UWEC (5-2) gets 4th place just because NDSU didnt play SJU.

5/6, Bethel would take 5th with a final record of 4-4 and Carelton would take 6th with a final record of 3-5.

So, are UND, Augsburg, and Moorehead out of the playoffs as of right now.

1/2) UST/SJU
3) NDSU
4) UWEC
5) Bethel
6) Carelton

[Chris Larson]

Augsburg is mathematically alive but would need to win out and a lot of help.

The Moorhead vs North Dakota game this weekend will be pivotal for for play off qualifications.

UWEC vs NDSU is still on the table for reschedule on 20-April. We would like to juggle another game to accomodate NDSU but are having difficulty gaining cooperation from another team.

I have not received confirmation that SJU vs NDSU will not be made up. Last I heard, they were looking at 23-April.

If we have an uneven number of games, we rank by win percentage.

[SiouxLax'in]

Augsburg? How are they still alive with 0 wins?

[DanGenck]

D2 will now finish the tourney on even numbered years and D1 on odd numbered years. D2 is not developmental so there's no reason we shouldn't alternate.

This is why we have the best leadership in the MCLA. Great decision, Chris (and others involved).

[oldmanlax]

If Augburg wins this weekend they would be tied with UND and Moorhead correct? I'm operating under the assumption that both UND and Moorhead lose to NDSU. However Sunday's outcome would change that. Go Bison!

[AuggieLaxCoach]

by my accounts, I thought we were mathematically eliminated. Even if we win out, that only give us 2 divisional wins and there are already six teams with 3 divisional wins. Top 6 teams are in... now, math is not my forte' but I think thats right

[Chris Larson]

You're right Jon. I was thinking we still had 8 teams in D2 and you still had a chance to qualify.

Good luck this weekend anyhow.

[msum26]

So that being said,


Moorhead, UND, Augsburg are eliminated from the playoff picture,

however the seeds 3-6 still need to be decided on who gets what spot,

show be some interesting action this weekend

[Chris Larson]

UND and Moorhead are not eliminated.

One of these two teams can win out. That result combined with NDSU not winning any remaining games would result in UND/Moorhead and NDSU with 3 conference wins. The head to head tiebreaker would favor the UND/Moorhead winner.

If NDSU cannot make up all their weather cancellations, then NDSU, even with only 3 wins will qualify based on higher winning percentage ( eg 3-4 = 0.429 vs 3-5 = 0.375)

[msum26]

Making this weekend

one of the most crucial in theory for the UMLL division 2
red river valley teams.


should be a great weekend


luck to all

[LaxTV_Admin]

In case anyone is wondering, D1 is not settled on seeds but is on teams.

Marquette and UWSP are out. (UWSP did not complete required OOC games according to mcla.us)

Everyone else is in, and no seeds have been determined. Two games are exceptionally important in determining seeds.

St. Cloud v. Mankato (tonight) - St. Cloud could get up to 6 wins and possibly get the #1 seed, but this game is crucial to ensure they get at least the 3rd seed.

Minnesota v. St. Olaf - If Minnesota loses they could possibly fall all the way to number #3 if St. Cloud wins out (they do play UMD this weekend).

I am not going to go through the rest because there are a lot of cases. I will post them after someone posts the St. Cloud v. Mankato score, and if someone would like me too.

These scenarios could be wrong, but are to the best recollection of the by-laws to me.

[LaxTV_Admin]

With the Mankato win last night (unofficially) a lot of the scenarios are cleared up.

UMD - Must win 1 out of 2 this weekend to be #1 seed. Cannot drop lower than #2.

Minnesota - Must hope UMD goes 0-2 this weekend and they get a win to be #1. Otherwise they have locked in the #2 seed.

Mankato - If they win at UWSP they lock in the #3 seed. Otherwise, any St. Cloud loss will give them #3 seed.

St. Cloud - Win out & Mankato loss to get the #3 seed.

If they loose both games they could fall to the #6 dependent on the outcome of the ISU v. Olaf game.

Iowa State - Must win out and can be no higher than the #4 seed. Wins over St. Cloud and St. Olaf give them the tiebreaker (head-to-head) but a loss to either will put them in a situation in which they are likely not to win the tie-breaker given their goal differential.

St. Olaf - Winning out gives them a shot at getting a higher seed, most likely 4 or 5, but definitely not 6th.

Must beat ISU in order to NOT be the 6th seed.

Their goal differential is okay, but because head-to-head is the first tiebreaker, a loss to ISU will have them hold the head-to-head over no one who qualified for the playoffs.


Current Goal Differential (all league games)
UMD - +84
U of M - +33
MSU - -6
SCSU - +12
ISU - -33
Olaf - -8

In all likelihood the seeding will end up something like this (and yes I am inferring wins and losses based off of past experience, but this is not to say it can't shake out differently)

#1 - UMD
#2 - U of M
#3 - MSU
#4 - St. Cloud
#5 - Winner of ISU/St. Olaf
#6 - Loser of ISU/St. Olaf

*These scenarios could be incorrect but are my best recollection of the by-laws. Let me know if you have questions, and I can explain further.