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Postby Gary Robinson on Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:36 pm

UTA 14
Trinity 8
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brilliant insight

Postby FlockOfSeagulls on Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:53 pm

unt scores from the past couple seasons always remind me of the indianapolis colts. they put points up on the teams they should beat as well as anyone in the league. and they always have one guy doing the bulk of it (davis last year, if i am not mistaken). now it is this files guy. don't get me wrong, both great players. Just like Peyton Manning is a great player. But when numbers get pumped up like that, you start to get greatly overestimated. Like when there was legitimate debate as to whether or not the UNT guy with a bunch of goals last year was better than Dunn from a&m... laughable. Just like when people say Peyton is better than Tom Brady. Hope Im not ruffling any feathers (everyone named in this post was a whole hell of a lot more talented than I), just thought it was an interesting analogy.
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Postby Gary Robinson on Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:06 pm

Since their has been so much speculation about the size of our team, I feel obligated to clear the air, so to speak. We played this weekend with 12 experienced players and 3 who just started playing a few weeks ago. The guys that are missing are top flight guys that we have really depended on in the past. The fact that we were right there in the St. John's game and were able to beat Trinity (all while running the entire event this weekend) spoke volumes about the determination of this team. We'll be getting some guys back soon and should be no worse for the wear.
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Postby the lax on Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:46 pm

benji wrote:if you're playing attack, a sticker certainly shouldn't intimidate you. As for size? ... merely a detail. My biggest problem with this league is that people fear teams liek CSU not because of their skill, but because of things like stickers, websites, and polls. Play the game, they're only human.


They are only human? And the score of your game was?
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Postby benji on Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:18 pm

the lax wrote:
benji wrote:if you're playing attack, a sticker certainly shouldn't intimidate you. As for size? ... merely a detail. My biggest problem with this league is that people fear teams liek CSU not because of their skill, but because of things like stickers, websites, and polls. Play the game, they're only human.


They are only human? And the score of your game was?


I wasn't denouncing CSU's talent by any means. However, my point was that teams, coaches, and spectators base certain opinions of clubs solely from what they read. Watching a game and reading a score are two entirely different things.

Any seasoned lacrosse player should know this.
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Postby tamu33 on Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:43 pm

Any word as to why Auburn forfieted?
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Postby the lax on Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:36 am

Benji, this isn't a situation of the score being 12-8 and the game was closer than the score suggests. CSU shot the ball 63 times against Texas this afternoon. Are you going to argue that the game was closer than 18-2 because the Rams missed the cage 20 twenty times and the goalie made 20 saves? I don't know what you are trying to prove. I have respect for all the Texas teams. I am thrilled Tech beat A&M, it will only improve the strength of the conference winner, thus giving them a better chance in the tournament. That said, each Texas team was completely run off the field by CSU. Stats, stickers, reading scores. At the end of the day, the score is 21-7 against Colorado States full roster not Farquhar and Bird and the biggest defense in the country. Colorado State is ranked accordingly as is Tech.
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Postby highaltlax on Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:49 am

CSU is definetly human. If they are so great, then why aren't they all playing D-1?
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Postby benji on Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:31 am

the lax wrote:Benji, this isn't a situation of the score being 12-8 and the game was closer than the score suggests. CSU shot the ball 63 times against Texas this afternoon. Are you going to argue that the game was closer than 18-2 because the Rams missed the cage 20 twenty times and the goalie made 20 saves? I don't know what you are trying to prove. I have respect for all the Texas teams. I am thrilled Tech beat A&M, it will only improve the strength of the conference winner, thus giving them a better chance in the tournament. That said, each Texas team was completely run off the field by CSU. Stats, stickers, reading scores. At the end of the day, the score is 21-7 against Colorado States full roster not Farquhar and Bird and the biggest defense in the country. Colorado State is ranked accordingly as is Tech.


the lax: I wasn't making an argument... don't know where you got that from. My only point, which I will now repeat, is that some of the better teams in this league have been feared not necessarily because of true talent, but because of heresay, rumor, and the overall impression of their organization. For example, Tech was "locked" to lose to TAMU by as many as 9 goals. Both teams played a great game and Tech pulled out with the win. TAMU has been ranked higher nationally than Texas, a team which TAMU lost to in the LSA championship, which brings me to my point. Unless you can tell me that everyone making picks/ predictions regarding scores and the overall level of talent in this league watches the teams for which they make these predictions prior to games, you must agree that they are subject to some, if not a lot of impressions derived from other sources.

My original response to your comment was that stickers mean nothing. Unless of course you think that a Ferrari emblem will add horsepower to your Geo.

CSU is an excellent team and has proved that here in Texas. But teams should feel threatened of them not because they "ran Texas off the field" and junk like that, but because they played their game and they played it well.
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Postby Sonny on Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:20 am

tamu33 wrote:Any word as to why Auburn forfieted?


Auburn didn't forfeit. Evidently there were issues/schedule delays with the fields in Arlington due to the poor weather. The game was postponed and Auburn had a mandatory bus schedule they had to keep. (Bus driver can only drive X amount of hours in a day, etc.)

All I can say at this time is that the LSA and SELC leadership are discussing the issue and an annoucement will be made when it is appropriate. Do not jump to any sort of conclusions.
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Postby Brent Burns on Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:44 am

This is from yesterday's game totally separate from the UTA Tourney:

Univ of Kansas 13

Oklahoma State 1
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Postby Campbell on Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:53 am

highaltlax wrote:CSU is definetly human. If they are so great, then why aren't they all playing D-1?


Didn't CSU beat UVA this year? When you can field that good a team without scholarships and the full support of your athletic department in this league I think you're doing pretty good. Getting a D-I program has lot more to do with money and the school's athletic department/admin than the talent of your players.
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Postby tamu33 on Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:47 am

Thanks sonny,
I wasn't trying to jump to conclusions, its just that several posts throughout the board had Auburn not wanting the contest to go on. And your clarification was what I was looking for.
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Postby highaltlax on Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:47 pm

Didn't CSU beat UVA this year?
Are you kidding me?????? You must be thinking of Denver.
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Postby JW on Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:22 pm

Nice win for UTA, that will be the one that gets them on their way.
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