Discuss upcoming games, report scores WCLL week 3

[Timbalaned]

Stanford 13 OSU 11

[CATLAX MAN]

An interesting game that is coming up this week will be Chapman v. Chico. These two teams may possibly be in competition for an at-large bid this year and winning this game may possibly tip the scales in their favor. They both seem to have taken the same route this year of avoiding, for the most part, the big guns on their schedule banking on building a good record to achieve a ranking. Now all it takes is execution.

[Chaplax23]

An interesting game that is coming up this week will be Chapman v. Chico. These two teams may possibly be in competition for an at-large bid this year and winning this game may possibly tip the scales in their favor. They both seem to have taken the same route this year of avoiding, for the most part, the big guns on their schedule banking on building a good record to achieve a ranking.

I think that it will be a good game as well, but your fact checking is not too hot:

Chapman plays the following ranked teams, all 10 of them, this regular season:

3. Univ. of California, Santa Barbara
6. Florida State
9. Univ. of California, San Diego
12. Utah
15. Arizona
17. Chico State
19. Cal Poly SLO
20. Michigan State
23. Texas Tech
24. Arizona State

That's 10/18 games against ranked teams, which started with an opening game against. the defending national champions

CHICO plays 5/15 games against ranked teams:

22. chapman
12. utah
19. cal poly
7. oregon
1. sonoma state

UCSB plays the same amount of ranked teams this season as Chapman, and the majority of top ten teams play less then 10 ranked teams this season.

Explain "big guns" to me like I'm a two year old, because I guess I don't know what that means.

Also, great effort out of USC against Cal Poly. I think that they are going to be a team this year that continues to grow and get better. I think their days of being a pushover team are over.

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Where are you, Jumbo?

[CATLAX MAN]

Explain "big guns" to me like I'm a two year old, because I guess I don't know what that means.

It's not a mystery who the big guns are, but I will explain it. What I consider to be the big guns are the Top 6 or so teams that are consistently at the top. These would be teams like CSU, BYU, UCSB, Sonoma, Michigan, Colorado, etc. I think it should be obvious.

Chapman has 1 (2 if you count Fla. St. which I don't because they haven't established consistency yet) game and Chico has 1 game (2 possibly, again not counting Oregon for the same reason) scheduled against that group.

Since you brought up UCSB as a comparison, they happen to play all of those teams and a few more. I think you get the picture now.

[Chaplax23]

"It's not a mystery who the big guns are, but I will explain it. What I consider to be the big guns are the Top 6 or so teams that are consistently at the top. These would be teams like CSU, BYU, UCSB, Sonoma, Michigan, Colorado, etc. I think it should be obvious.

Chapman has 1 (2 if you count Fla. St. which I don't because they haven't established consistency yet) game and Chico has 1 game (2 possibly, again not counting Oregon for the same reason) scheduled against that group.

Since you brought up UCSB as a comparison, they happen to play all of those teams and a few more. I think you get the picture now.[/quote] "
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Nope, still a bit confused. Fla. St. and Oregon are not consistent ranked at numbers 6 and 7 respectfully (that poll must be fixed, because it is filled with inconsistent teams), so I guess I am off. 16 teams at the tournament, and Chapman is playing 5 of that top 16 this season, and UCSB is playing 7, so that is a huge inconsistent gap. Oh wait, the very consistent Colorado state is playing 5 teams from the top 16 as well. Crazy...

I looked at those crazy laxpower strength of schedule rankings and for some reason chapman is at 15 and the Patron Saint UCSB is at 59. So, I still must be a bit off. Let's just agree to disagree. I was never good at math anyway.[/quote]

[WaterBoy]

Wow. There's a lot of bitterness here. I think you have some good points (both of you), but uh... the whole bitter at the world thing is gonna make me side with Catlax. If you're going to try to post on the forums to try and boost a particular team, at least represent them with some class.

As an aside, right now laxpower means nothing. The sample size of games is simply way too small for the mathematics to start kicking in. Where are Colorado State and BYU on laxpower? Where's Sonoma? Just give laxpower some time and it will do a remarkable job of ironing itself out.

[Chaplax23]

Still a lot of love here. These posts are usually full of great support for the Big dogs and not everyone else. That is what I don't like, which is why I will speak up for the others.

Each team will need to prove themselves on the field one game at a time, but unfortunately, these forums seem to sway polls a bit too much. Just trying to keep things balanced.

One love and bring back Jumbo!

[CATLAX MAN]

It's not a matter of speaking up for another team; it's about recognizing facts. The facts are that the 6 teams that I mentioned are consistently -- that means year after year after year -- ranked in the Top 8 to 10 every year. Florida St. & Oregon have only been there for the last 2 years or so. When they start doing that more often, and I suspect that they will, I would include them in that group too. I don't understand what is so hard to comprehend here?

You can try and build up your team (Chico, I assume) on this board, but message board posts usually don't have any effect on their rankings. It's all about results on the field.