Div AA Playoffs

[DRich17]

You'd be surprised at the small amount of $$ many D1 lacrosse players receive. Very rarely is it a full scholarship.

We dont call them scholarships in the GRLC, scholarships are illegal in our league, which makes me question your know how in this specific situation... however grants are another story

Someone earlier asked the question of how can you run a program with 10K? I can tell you as a 3rd place GRLC team, whose budget is in between 15 and 20K, that it is very possible.

There was a situation between missouri and missouri state last year that arose, where MU and MSU had a 'scheduling conflict.' The game which was supposed to take place did not (on more than one occassion MU had a problem with the field and told us not to come up there). The EB had stated that if either of our teams was not able to make the trip and complete the game (like the Iowa situation apparently) that there would be consequences. The last game between us was scheduled a matter of days before playoffs, and as we had players on the road up to columbia to play, we were called and told not to come.
So here was a situation where similiar standards were set in place, and it does not seem like the ruler was the same length, if you catch my drift.

Now those above are the facts. I did not misquote anyone or blame anyone, but a game that shouldv'e broken a 3rd place tie, was cancelled by the team who had the higher goal differential...

[culax]

Last year Missouri and Missouri State failed to play a required conference game. You would hope that teams are committed to working together to schedule or reschedule their required games.

As the game was not played it was considered a no contest. I was surprised that both teams were not punished and placed on probation for the upcoming season.

I am even more surprised that some individuals want to discuss this in a public forum.

The Iowa situation was completely different from the Missouri-Missouri State situation.

Again, I am surprised that anyone would want to discuss this in a public forum. Both situations were addressed at the conference meeting last fall. Nothing is gained by rehashing things on a message board.

[hawkeyelax]

seems to me that although it happened differently, the same rules were broken regardless of the actually process of it happening. both iowa, miss st., and missouri did not play a conference game last year. bottom line.

[DRich17]

Last year Missouri and Missouri State failed to play a required conference game. You would hope that teams are committed to working together to schedule or reschedule their required games.

As the game was not played it was considered a no contest. I was surprised that both teams were not punished and placed on probation for the upcoming season.

...Nothing is gained by rehashing things on a message board.

Missouri State Bent over backwards to play MU last year and was unable to get a time together, LIKE I SAID, we had individuals on their way up to play Mizzou before they called and cancelled. I dont know why it was a no contest, MU essentially forfeited. And yes Hawkeye Lax we should all be treated the same. There has to be consistancy. I am not familiar with the Iowa deal, so I will have to ask someone to fill me in (privately most likely).

There is absolutely everything to gain in a public forum. Has anyone ever taken a history class. Public dialogue and argument is the only way things ever get done or changed. Should we all be encouraged to turn our backs to an issue which so directly affects all of us?

[culax]

Missouri State Bent over backwards to play MU last year and was unable to get a time together, LIKE I SAID, we had individuals on their way up to play Mizzou before they called and cancelled. I dont know why it was a no contest, MU essentially forfeited. And yes Hawkeye Lax we should all be treated the same. There has to be consistancy. I am not familiar with the Iowa deal, so I will have to ask someone to fill me in (privately most likely).

There is absolutely everything to gain in a public forum. Has anyone ever taken a history class. Public dialogue and argument is the only way things ever get done or changed. Should we all be encouraged to turn our backs to an issue which so directly affects all of us?

Anyone interested in discussing either situation should absolutely feel free to do so. But in my opinion, it does no good to blame, accuse or shame another team in public on a message board. Hypothetically, if someone from the Iowa program wanted to discuss the executive board's ruling I would have no problem doing so privately. The officers from last year's Iowa team know exactly how and why the board ruled as it did. Hypothetically, if my team were involved, I would not want it rehashed on a message board.

[DRich17]

Now those above are the facts. I did not misquote anyone or blame anyone, but a game that shouldv'e broken a 3rd place tie, was cancelled by the team who had the higher goal differential...

[essn1064]

Well Ole Miss won today 18-5 against Memphis

And Arkansas looks like a no show

Is Ole Miss set for playoffs?

[RGDickerson]

As the game was not played it was considered a no contest. I was surprised that both teams were not punished and placed on probation for the upcoming season.

I am even more surprised that some individuals want to discuss this in a public forum.

Ok, I didn't want to talk about this AGAIN, but now I have to.

First of all...Missouri State tried every opportunity possible to try and get that game played and was told to "not even come up" by MU.

Second of all, you're surprised that some individuals want to discuss this in a public forum? You mean...exactly what YOU are doing right now?

Get your facts right before you spout off.

Sorry, this pressed my button.

P.S. If you would like to read more about what happened with the MSU vs. MU game in 2007...here. For me, I'm done discussing it. http://forums.collegelax.us/viewtopic.p ... ght=#77882

[A.J. Stevens]

As the game was not played it was considered a no contest. I was surprised that both teams were not punished and placed on probation for the upcoming season.

I am even more surprised that some individuals want to discuss this in a public forum.

Ok, I didn't want to talk about this AGAIN, but now I have to.

First of all...Missouri State tried every opportunity possible to try and get that game played and was told to "not even come up" by MU.

Second of all, you're surprised that some individuals want to discuss this in a public forum? You mean...exactly what YOU are doing right now?

Get your facts right before you spout off.

Sorry, this pressed my button.

P.S. If you would like to read more about what happened with the MSU vs. MU game in 2007...here. For me, I'm done discussing it. http://forums.collegelax.us/viewtopic.p ... ght=#77882

He has his facts right. Like you would have done any better against Illinois rather than Lindenwood. Let it go. I can not believe how much whiming is going on about a 3rd or 4th seed. Either way you would have had to play Lindenwood. "Spout off" uncalled for.

Sorry, this pressed my button.

[RGDickerson]

Like you would have done any better against Illinois rather than Lindenwood.

Too bad you missed the point completely..

Sour grapes I guess.

[essn1064]

Well back to the discussion at hand.......

Ole Miss and KState will be going to playoffs from Div1AA

[FeartheFlow]

If that is the case, congratulations from the University of Iowa Lacrosse team. Double AA really worked out great this year for all teams involved. We look forward to competing once again with the other teams next year, this time being off of probation.

Congratulations and good luck.

[essn1064]

Iowa yall did a great job this year and maybe we will see eachother next year

Div 1AA worked since three teams went 4-1,4-1, 3-1(+a no contest)

But the system needs to change...a remake of the subdivisions

[MBlax327]

If that is the case, congratulations from the University of Iowa Lacrosse team. Double AA really worked out great this year for all teams involved. We look forward to competing once again with the other teams next year, this time being off of probation.

Congratulations and good luck.

Way to be a good sport, Flow. And congrats to Iowa, who really did make an impressive turnaround this year. You deserved the team of the week nomination you gained earlier in the season. I'm looking forward to the impact you'll make in 2009.

I have to say that i have really enjoyed the AA competition this year. I look forward to seeing Ole Miss and K-State in St Charles.

sincerely,
mike

[DRich17]

So Div I-AA will send K State and Ole Miss? Try telling the 3 and 4 seeds that their final spot didnt really matter, or maybe we can generalize and say that the 2 and 3 seeds really had no difference?

Well congrats to the teams going, that's pretty cool. I don't agree with why Iowa is out of the running, as a paying member of the conference I would appreciate some more consistancy or atleast a little better job of explaining what is happening in my conference.

One vote for rethinking the sub conference.