PNCLL Week #6 (3/5-3/11) -- Predict/Report Scores/Discuss

Postby Kyle Berggren on Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:24 pm

Dan I'm with ya, but I'm not that far yet. I've been watching that & laughing as we move down. Basically, we started our season early & were barely able to pull one out over SOU & that's holding us down. The predicted figure keeps moving up as they've been thin & injured since that game. I can't wait to end up at the bottom... God forbid we lost a game.

As far as undefeated goes, we still have a few tough games left, games I wouldn't guarantee victory in. Everyone seems to forget that WOU came out in their first game of the season & beat WWU by 10+. Yes they overlooked CWU the next day, but they won't be overlooking us. We were barely able to hang on to the WWU game after losing a first line middie & starting pole, but we hope to have both back in April. Hopefully we'll be up to the challenge of WOU, @ WOU. Then we still have a rivalry game against my alma mater PLU, which never goes as well as it should... It will probably be a blood bath, but at least we're not at Gonyea. Undefeated is a long way down the road, but with 1 more win, we most likely clinch a 2nd seed & I'm pretty excited about that first round bye!
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Postby primetime21 on Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:35 pm

this was a great weekend for lacrosse, a lot of big games and i think surprises. it looks like the pncll-2 has it almost set for playoffs, (at least the teams that will make it) except for the sixth spot sou or PLU look to have that one, will be an interesting game for those two. as for the pncll-1 division it seems as though it is a little more competitive than people thought.

we all knew oregon was the team to beat, but with SFU making some noise and uw off to a good year, plus throw in montana, it has been very competitive. i think the league learned a lot from the oregon montana game in that montana is very competitive and CAN play at the level of oregon, maybe not for a full 60 minutes but they are getting there. i just wish i could be in missoula for the playoffs, i'm just stuck watching it on my computer
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Postby TheBearcatHimself on Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:54 pm

primetime21 wrote:it looks like the pncll-2 has it almost set for playoffs, (at least the teams that will make it)


Guess the rest of the teams will just pack it in?? See you guys in 09 :?

Dan Wishengrand wrote:Wow the Laxpower computer sure has no love for the PNCLL's D2 teams!


Unfortunately this computer based ranking has no love for us becuase of our league's severe lack of OOC games. Look at any other Conference's top D2 teams and you will see that they not only travel, but travel far to play top competition. Now I'm not saying that our guys need to go to Atlanta to play Emory or something (but that would be sweeeet), but with 10 teams in our league only 4 have taken the step up to look over the fence that is the Siskiyous and Rockies. In fact, no one has even attempted an RMLC game this season in our D2, a scary trend. My applause to WOU, SOU and PLU for taking the banner out on the road and carrying it high to represent our conference and prove that we can beat teams other than ourselves.

I understand that it costs money to go on road trips, but guys, if my team can do it, and find success in doing it as well, then any team in our league can and should.
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Postby primetime21 on Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:01 pm

Guess the rest of the teams will just pack it in?? See you guys in 09



in no way did i say that, looking at the schedule and standings it looks pretty difficult for other teams to make it. does that mean they can't or won't? of course not, and even if they don't make who's to say they can't or won't play spoiler. stats are stats if teams won on paper then would be no reason to play the game, any given day anyteam can beat anybody, just ask the GIANTS!!!
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Postby Tyler Baumann on Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:04 pm

Igonre Lax Power and just bring home another National championship to the PNCLL D2 :D
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Postby TheBearcatHimself on Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:24 pm

primetime21 wrote:
Guess the rest of the teams will just pack it in?? See you guys in 09



in no way did i say that, looking at the schedule and standings it looks pretty difficult for other teams to make it. does that mean they can't or won't? of course not, and even if they don't make who's to say they can't or won't play spoiler. stats are stats if teams won on paper then would be no reason to play the game, any given day anyteam can beat anybody, just ask the GIANTS!!!


Just joking around, no ill intent was taken from the comments, although yes there are clear positions being made for the playoffs.

And yes, laxpower is ridiculous, just pointing out that isolationism will not help our national credibility.
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Postby Dr. Jason Stockton on Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:50 pm

TheBearcatHimself wrote:I understand that it costs money to go on road trips, but guys, if my team can do it, and find success in doing it as well, then any team in our league can and should.


I really wish the Loggers had scheduled a couple OOC games right now. . .I'm guessing with their emergence this season, they are probably wishing the same thing.

Will, I hope other teams will follow your example and play games outside of our conference next year. Sure, we expect the "big guys" to play OOC games every year. . .but if a team like Willamette (who may not have a history of success) is willing to make the commitment to travel and represent the conference - it goes to show teams that EVERYONE in the league should make it a goal to travel outside the Northwest every season.

My fondest memories of college lacrosse as a player were all Spring Break trips. . .Utah, SoCal, Arizona. . .I really think you're missing out on a big part of the experience if you don't take the opportunity and make these trips. . .

Easier said than done, sure. . .but well worth the effort.
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Postby Timbalaned on Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:53 pm

Dr. Jason Stockton wrote:My fondest memories of college lacrosse as a player were all Spring Break trips. . .Utah, SoCal, Arizona. . .I really think you're missing out on a big part of the experience if you don't take the opportunity and make these trips. . .


also something said about these trips making a group a better team. I have some of the best memories from these trips, but I also feel they brought us together. whether it be sitting in the back of buses, vans, or planes, the close proximity and the time you spend together bring a team together. That and going two man in some small beds can add for a closeness that only non varsity teams can understand! :D
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Postby NCInDaPlaceTaBe on Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:09 pm

Montana vs OSU game recap up...enjoy

http://www.collegelax.us/news/2008/03/10/montana-keeps-pncll-playoff-hopes-alive/

That and going two man in some small beds can add for a closeness that only non varsity teams can understand!


I miss you Brauck! :shock:
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Postby Scrape Mode on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:08 am

primetime21 wrote: i think the league learned a lot from the oregon montana game in that montana is very competitive and CAN play at the level of oregon, maybe not for a full 60 minutes but they are getting there.


How can you say Montana played at the level of Oregon (except for a few minutes)?!

The final was 19-10!
Oregon pulled its starters.

Maybe they can play at the level of SFU...
...who will go yet another season with 2 loses in the PNCLL (such a shame).
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Postby Hi-Line Lax on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:18 am

Blackmore scored two of the three 4 quarter goals for the Ducks... when exactly did their starters get pulled? Probably the same time as ours, with about 7 minutes left in the game.

Aside from the two very quick 5 goal runs that happened late in the first and early-mid second quarter, this game was actually pretty close. The Ducks are still clearly a far better team, but your information about the game simply isn't right.
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Postby GrizLens on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:32 am

NC was definitely in da place ta be this weekend. Thanks for an outstanding pair of articles, Nate. Try and make it to Texas this year (if you can pull yourself away from paradise.)
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Postby Dr. Jason Stockton on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:50 am

Scrape Mode wrote:The final was 19-10!
Oregon pulled its starters.

Maybe they can play at the level of SFU...
...who will go yet another season with 2 loses in the PNCLL (such a shame).


Now that's the Julian I remember. . . :wink:
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Postby Timbalaned on Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:02 am

Hi-Line Lax wrote:Blackmore scored two of the three 4 quarter goals for the Ducks... when exactly did their starters get pulled? Probably the same time as ours, with about 7 minutes left in the game.

Aside from the two very quick 5 goal runs that happened late in the first and early-mid second quarter, this game was actually pretty close. The Ducks are still clearly a far better team, but your information about the game simply isn't right.


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Postby Scrape Mode on Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:31 am

Hi-Line Lax wrote:
Aside from the two very quick 5 goal runs that happened late in the first and early-mid second quarter, this game was actually pretty close. The Ducks are still clearly a far better team, but your information about the game simply isn't right.


You were there, I was not. The only information I need to know is 19-10. I am not trying to discuss how good or bad either team is, I just don't think you can say a 19-10 game was pretty close. 5 goal runs are part of the game, you can't forget about those and just talk about the rest of the game like they didn't happen. I have played/watched games where a weaker team is able to hold on for much of the game, and to me, that's all it is, holding on. Holding on until a 5 goal run makes it not a close game.

But, you were there, and I was not. You say Montana wasn't holding on but rather competing at an equal level of Oregon (except for a 5 goal run) and if they were to play again, the outcome could be much different?! Although you do say Oregon is still clearly a far better team. Clearly, a 19-10 victory by a far better team is not a close game. That's all I'm trying to say, it's a stupid argument and doesn't need to be discussed any farther. I wasn't even at the game...
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