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Lacrosse Clip Art/Stock Photography?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:13 pm
by LaxRef
Does anyone know a good source for lacrosse clip art and/or stock photography? Free is nice, but I can pay for a package if it's decent and not too expensive. I found a few things online, but I'm not paying $100 for one picture.

Clip art and photos of officials, whistles, flags, zebras, etc., would also be appreciated.

Thanks!

RE:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:44 pm
by LaxTchr
Althought it's all of the same two teams, we had a professional photographer come out to our season opener last season. If any are helpful, feel free to use them.

http://www.southlakeslacrosse.com/Photo ... otos/index.

Here's one that specifically includes the men in stripes:

http://www.southlakeslacrosse.com/Photo ... re138.html

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:55 pm
by laxfan25
I was going to help you out by looking on the web for lacrosse pictures, so I used the Google and searched on things like sticks and poles, but the sites that were returned didn't seem to be the type you are looking for! (Or maybe they are! :lol: :wink: )

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:07 am
by somrandomguy
Lax.com perhaps? They have tons of photos on there, I'm sure if you really look you can find ones for what you need. Also, excuse me for stating the obvious, but the photos section of this very site has a veritable treasure trove of photos as well.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:53 am
by Sonny
somrandomguy wrote: Also, excuse me for stating the obvious, but the photos section of this very site has a veritable treasure trove of photos as well.


That can't be used unless you have expressed written permission from the web site and photographer. Do you understand basic copyright law applies to the web too?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:32 pm
by somrandomguy
Sonny wrote:
somrandomguy wrote: Also, excuse me for stating the obvious, but the photos section of this very site has a veritable treasure trove of photos as well.


That can't be used unless you have expressed written permission from the web site and photographer. Do you understand basic copyright law applies to the web too?

Suggest you read the TERMS OF USE, linked at the bottom of the page. Any use of the CollegeLAX site denotes acceptance of these terms:
http://www.collegelax.us/terms.php


2. LICENSE TO USE COLLEGELAX.

You are granted a non-exclusive, non-transferable, revocable license (a) to access and use the CollegeLAX web site strictly in accordance with this Agreement; and (b) to use the Site solely for internal, personal, non-commercial purposes.

You may use CollegeLAX and the Content offered on CollegeLAX only for personal, non-commercial purposes. You may use Content offered for downloading, such as photos and podcasts, for personal use only and subject to the rules that accompany that particular Content. You may not use the Content in a manner that exceeds the rights granted for your use of the Content. You may not use any data mining, robots, or similar data gathering and extraction tools on the Content, frame any portion of CollegeLAX or Content, or reproduce, reprint, copy, store, publicly display, broadcast, transmit, modify, translate, port, publish, sublicense, assign, transfer, sell, loan, or otherwise distribute the Content without our prior written consent. You may not circumvent any mechanisms included in the Content for preventing the unauthorized reproduction or distribution of the Content.


I realize that, but I was making the assumption that since it's LaxRef, he would be using them for some sort of non-commercial/profit, educational use; in which case I would hope most photographers with their work on here would not object to, especially considering the images are already on the web for free to begin with.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:21 pm
by Madlax16
LaxTchr wrote:Althought it's all of the same two teams, we had a professional photographer come out to our season opener last season. If any are helpful, feel free to use them.

http://www.southlakeslacrosse.com/Photo ... otos/index.

Here's one that specifically includes the men in stripes:

http://www.southlakeslacrosse.com/Photo ... re138.html



Hey, is this south lakes in Reston? i mean i dont think there are anyother south lakes sehawks out there. But just wondering.

PS i hate herndon i hope you guys beat them, specially coming off your impressive season last year.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:19 pm
by LAXDawg14
u can use the new ncaa logo haha
just kidding

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:33 pm
by Sonny
somrandomguy wrote: I realize that, but I was making the assumption that since it's LaxRef, he would be using them for some sort of non-commercial/profit, educational use; in which case I would hope most photographers with their work on here would not object to, especially considering the images are already on the web for free to begin with.


Just because something is on the web for free does not mean that you can use them without permission.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:00 pm
by somrandomguy
Sonny wrote:Just because something is on the web for free does not mean that you can use them without permission.


I realize that. What I was saying was that if something is on the web for free, especially something like sports photography where the original doesn't have a whole lot of value inherent of itself, there is much less motivation for whoever created the work to say no to someone using the work, assuming they (the user) are not making money off of the usage.

I do understand copyright law, even though I'm not a big believer in it. Either way, debating this will just take this thread even further off topic.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:46 pm
by Hugh Nunn
Here is some free stuff off of e-Lacrosse.com

http://www.e-lacrosse.com/cursors.htm

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:12 pm
by Sonny
Hugh Nunn wrote:Here is some free stuff off of e-Lacrosse.com

http://www.e-lacrosse.com/cursors.htm


I would imagine that any public use of E-Lacrosse graphics/cursors/etc. would also need to be approved by their site management.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:58 pm
by Hugh Nunn
Maybe this is a stupid question, but wouldn't the fact that it is available for free download be tacit approval of private use?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:13 am
by Sonny
Hugh Nunn wrote:Maybe this is a stupid question, but wouldn't the fact that it is available for free download be tacit approval of private use?


Yes. And that is the way most free downloads on the web are structured.

However, it sounds like LaxRef is asking about artwork that he can use publicly (which is way different than private use).

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:39 am
by Campbell
you know it never hurts to ask the people you are borrowing photos or graphics from. In many cases they will send you better quality stuff that you can use. This gives the owner/artist control over how their work is depicted publicly. So they might not have a problem with you using it for free, and it only takes 5 minutes to send off a quick email asking them. When I did the webpage for my team a couple of years ago I sent an email to the US Lacrosse web guy for a graphic to link to their page and asked if that was allowed. He gladly sent me a nice graphic formatted for the web. I got the impression he was a little miffed that people just pull these graphics off their main page without permission.