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Graduate Students

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:48 pm
by LaxTastic
I'm sure this question has been asked numerous times, but what is the ruling if a kid played say 3 years of ncaa, and now they're a grad student at a different school wanting to play uslia. Are they eligible or no?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:53 pm
by atxlax
I'm pretty sure that if you are a Graduate student you can only play for the school that you received your Undergraduate Degree from. In addition, I believe that Grad. Strudents must take 12 hours (even if their school says 9 is a full load). All in all, I think it is difficult to play as a Graduate Student in the USLIA-MDIA. 8-)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:26 pm
by Kevin Boyle
Awesome!

My favorite subject is back again!

I'm gonna start surfing the Cal Student Activities By-Laws right away!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:36 pm
by LaxTastic
that's what i thought, then i read this article where it says a kid who played on the uva team is playing as a graduate at syracuse:

http://www.collegesports.com/sports/m-l ... 05aaa.html

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:08 pm
by Guest
I think what atxlax said is correct. From what I understand, the MDIA plays by different rules than the NCAA does when it comes to graduate students playing. It is more difficult to play in the MDIA as a grad than it is in the NCAA.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:02 pm
by OAKS
In NCAA D1, you have 5 years from when you start your first undergrad degree to play 4 years of sports. One of the only exceptions to this rule are medical redshirts. So if you graduate in 4 years or less, and have not used 4 years of eligibility, you can play until you have used the eligibility or the 5 years is up. The most recent example of this I can think of was Tim McGinnis, who played undergrad at Gettysburg and a grad year at Maryland.

I don't know the D2 or D3 rules about all this though.

MDIA rules from what I understand are that you have 4 years of eligibility to use at any time. However, if you are in graduate school, you must be at the same school of your undergraduate degree to be eligible.

You can find all this out at the least by doing a search... seems like there's about 500 threads on this subject alone.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:52 pm
by KerrLax
What if your undergrad school has no team?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:24 am
by Jolly Roger
What if your undergrad school has no team?


Then you probably didn't play and should be able to participate at your graduate institution as long as you're taking 12 credit hours.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:28 pm
by Gregg Pathiakis
Jolly Roger wrote:
What if your undergrad school has no team?


Then you probably didn't play and should be able to participate at your graduate institution as long as you're taking 12 credit hours.


I don't believe this is true. You can obviously appeal the decision, but I believe the rule states that graduate students can only play MDIA lacrosse at the same school that they received their undergrad degree at. It doesn't list expeceptions to the rule.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:40 pm
by onpoint
Am I to assume we will have the ABSOLUTE eligibility guidelines on the website in the near future? It would be nice for something in writing to be within reach for all teams as we prepare for the spring . . . Perhaps something that plays out scenarios and gives examples of eligible/ineligible.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:15 pm
by Gregg Pathiakis
onpoint wrote:Am I to assume we will have the ABSOLUTE eligibility guidelines on the website in the near future? It would be nice for something in writing to be within reach for all teams as we prepare for the spring . . . Perhaps something that plays out scenarios and gives examples of eligible/ineligible.


I believe this will be done on the new MDIA website which should be operational by November 15.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:24 pm
by Catlax
What if your undergraduate school does not have graduate programs?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:44 pm
by nhoskins
atxlax wrote:I'm pretty sure that if you are a Graduate student you can only play for the school that you received your Undergraduate Degree from. In addition, I believe that Grad. Strudents must take 12 hours (even if their school says 9 is a full load). All in all, I think it is difficult to play as a Graduate Student in the USLIA-MDIA. 8-)


This is correct. The issue comes up every year, but I can confirm that two years ago SFU had a graduate student with no collegiate lacrosse experience who completed his undergraduate degree at a school with no lacrosse program. He was denied eligiblity.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:47 pm
by Gregg Pathiakis
Catlax wrote:What if your undergraduate school does not have graduate programs?


Unfortunately, your playing days end at the undergrad school.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:20 pm
by onpoint
How about a player who played Division III ball over five years ago for a season and has since transferred to an MDIA school?