LaxTV Forums | A Forum About The MCLA

Here is a link to Division III Colorado College's website:

http://www.coloradocollege.edu/athletics/varsity%5Fsports/mlacrosse/

Here is a link to their results page:

http://www.coloradocollege.edu/Athletics/varsity_sports/mlacrosse/results/

NOTE: If they change it before you see it, CC has listed their recent victory over the Colorado Buffaloes, but not their losses to CSU and Sonoma. Very interesting.

I would like to personally thank the Division III Colorado College Tigers for "officially" pointing out that their games against the three MDIA opponents don't "officially" count towards their schedule since the MDIA is not "officially" considered a varsity entity. Special thanks to Coach Dave Zazzaro and the rest of the staff for making sure to maintain the integrity of his institution and all of Division III lacrosse by distancing his program as far as possible from the MDIA. Even though this measure is obviously motivated by the fear that the MDIA is passing programs like his - i.e. mediocre Division III programs with no real upside or anything to play for - by, it is important to keep in mind what "official" college lacrosse is all about.

I would also like to personally thank the Division III Colorado College Tigers for educating me on the simple matter of "class," something Coach Zazzaro's program supposedly prides itself on. Class is apparently an option when your team is losing, especially to someone who is "inferior" to you. Class is apparently something you only have to care about as it relates to how people treat you. Class is something you don't have to worry about if the team you are playing is not recognized by their school as a Varsity program. Bottom line: Have class when you feel like it and be disgusted at teams who don't show it back to you.

I really used to like this program. I almost went there after my father played hockey and lacrosse at CC and had great respect for what they were doing for lacrosse in Colorado. Luckily I didn't have the grades to get in and was relegated to that lowly program about 120 miles to the north. For a team that has such a proud history, I would be ashamed to be an alumnus of a school that does not have the respect or dignity to take their losses like men and respect their opponents as equals. If you would like to ask Coach Zazzaro what happened to their formerly proud tradition, you can reach him here:

dzazzaro@coloradocollege.edu

Frankly, there aren't many opponents near CC to be acting like this to the ones who are gracious enough to travel to play them. DU is way out of their league and the only way to get teams into Colorado Springs is to hold three-day invitational type tourneys because there are no other games nearby. But instead of seeing the CSU and CU games as rivalries against equal and solid teams, the Tigers have relegated themselves to excuses and cheap shots (mostly in the realm of media - their play on the field is mostly clean) when losing or winning.

My idea for CSU next year when they make the trip to Colorado Springs (because CC will never travel back to Fort Collins or Boulder or Rohnert Park or Provo). Practice pennies. Why waste the nice jerseys on such a meaningless game? Break out the reversibles and save the nice greens for a game that actually means something.

onpoint wrote:My idea for CSU next year when they make the trip to Colorado Springs (because CC will never travel back to Fort Collins or Boulder or Rohnert Park or Provo). Practice pennies. Why waste the nice jerseys on such a meaningless game? Break out the reversibles and save the nice greens for a game that actually means something.

They are total BS but as much as I think that's a great idea. I think you guys should just show up, wear your normal jerseys, and kick their butts. Nothing they can do about that.

Another couple if ideas...

1. Tape the win... and send 90 copies to the coach... one for each day, for the next 3 months.

2. Take 2 nets with you to the next CSU-CC game, dye them green, and the night before cut theirs down, and relace the green ones. NCAA rules says they have to be one solid color - that's all. Play the entire game with the green nets.

3. Refuse to play them until they recognize the game as more than just a "scrimmage".

Seriously Alex you should make some calls, write an article, or something to the local CC paper (the Gazette - Colorado Springs newspaper) informing them of this. Maybe if we publically display this... things will go in our direction.

Good eye though Alex - glad you caught that. It's just ridiculous - such a slap in the face. I wonder, how does Flip feel about it, being a CC alumni and all?

I agree that CC is just plain stupid about this. Obviously, they are trying to display best and conceal their worst. So, Alex, tell the CC coach how you feel and try to fix the issue. That would include making sure next year it is treated like a game and even the announcer doesn't call it a scrimmage.
But, please, don't mess up a good thing by blowing your horn too loud. Club teams playing NCAA is great. So, fix it without injuring relationships. Remember that laxpower does show the score of both the CSU and CU games and that is much more important that a team website.
My personal opinion is that I love to see the Club vs NCAA games. It's just plain and simple motivating to club ball, which is what we all play. I'd even love to see CSU try their luck at Denver. Although, DU is the far superior team, it'd be interesting to see how they do. And I gaurentee that a CSU vs DU game would be more of a game then the current CSU vs Mines games are today.

I play next year's game in your CSU pennies. Remember it's just a scrimmage.

I am disappointed in CC. I cannot remember ever having a coach who does not "own up" to losses. It seems like they are trying to deny it ever happened?

They had a team in Vail last year that was horrible too. Not so much classless, but just not good. I don't see where they get their pedestal. Our team was chalk-full of former/current MDIA players and we smoked them...what a bunch of tools...

FYI: I sent a little email over to Colorado College's head coach about not posting all of his game results- he emailed me back and said:

"Thank you for your comments. I will make sure that our Sports Information people list the results consistently".
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Best,

David Zazzaro
Men's Lacrosse Coach
Colorado College

CC lax results page is updated with CSU/CC and Sonoma St/CC scores now.

I hate to keep harping on this issue, it's just been rubbing me the wrong way since we beat them last year. It never was an issue when CC was winning the games against CSU, but once we won, it turned into a class issue, which totally set me off. I probably overreacted for the umpteenth time by starting this post, but I'm glad Coach Z has updated his schedule.

lulions wrote:FYI: I sent a little email over to Colorado College's head coach about not posting all of his game results- he emailed me back and said:

"Thank you for your comments. I will make sure that our Sports Information people list the results consistently".
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Best,

David Zazzaro
Men's Lacrosse Coach
Colorado College

Lulions, good job man. It seems like you took apropriate action and got the results we were looking for. Based on coach Zazzaro's comments it looks like he's not a bad guy, but just allowed a stupid mistake to happen. Oh well, glad it's fixed, and I hope it never happens again.

I also sent an email to coach Z yesterday and I received the same reply.

I also emailed correcting the "Sonoma State College" listing on their schedule.

While I don't like teams downplaying their games with club teams (the (C) next to the MDIA's) I do understand the fact that they are trying to gain respect in the varsity world by maintaining a certain distance from the club teams. My only real problem with the (C) is if they are somehow trying to imply that they didn't take the game seriously or the MDIA team somehow had a bunch of ringers (like west coast mens club teams that flying in DI talent from back east for tournaments). The only scrimage on the schedule, however, was Airforce so it appears they were taking the MDIA games as "real games".

The fact that they make a point to show who on the schedule is a club team makes the fact that the MDIA is winning games that much sweeter.

I agree for the most part except for being on the sidelines of last year's game and hearing the way some of their staff was talking about the game. When you hear their head coach tell their players (loud enough for both benches to hear) that the game is just an exhibition and doesn't matter anyway, I think you lose your opportunity to chastise anyone about class, which is really what my main beef with the team is.

To paraphrase Herm Edwards "You play to win the game"

Rob