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Parity discussion... Just for fun

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:04 pm
by SCLAX
Today I read an article about Duke on insidelacrosse.com and the last paragraph made me curious. Here it is:

"Somewhat unrelated, but think about this, lacrosse fans: VMI defeats Siena, which tops Loyola, which upsets Georgetown, which holds the only win over Duke. You could make the case for this as an example of how parity has come to college lacrosse."

VMI is ranked #53 of 57 teams on laxpower.com and Duke is #1

I wondered if any similar situations have occurred in the MCLA this season. These are the best I could come up with. If anyone else can think of any good ones please post.

West VA over Clemson
Clemson over GA Tech
GA Tech over Lindenwood
Lindenwood over Utah
Utah over CSU
CSU over Minn-Duluth
Minn-Duluth over BYU

BYU is ranked #2 on Laxpower.com, #4 in poll
(Minn-Duluth is ranked #4 on Laxpower.com, #3 in poll)
West VA is ranked #74 on Laxpower.com

Stonehill over URI
URI over BU
BU over Northeastern
Northeastern over UC Davis
UC Davis over Oregona State
Oregon State over Gonzaga
Gonzaga over Chico State
Chico State over Cal
Cal over Oregon

Oregon is ranked #9 on Laxpower.com, #10 in poll
Stonehill is ranked #73 on Laxpower.com

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:05 pm
by Doug Shanahan
As the game continues to grow across the board, you will see more and more parity at all levels. Of course there still will be a few powerhouses at each level Div. 1,2,or 3 and in the MCLA, but each year I believe those programs are more likely to have upsets. Mainly because alot of great players fly under the radar or don't get recruited at all.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:14 pm
by Dan Wishengrad
Boise State beat San Diego
San Diego beat Loyola-Marymount
Loyol-Marymount beat Florida
Florida beat UCSB
UCSB beat 'Noma
'Noma beat Colorado State
Colorado State beat UMD
UMD beat BYU

Boise State ranked #67 in Laxpower
BYU ranked #2

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:49 pm
by Shawn Carman
I really like your comparison Dan. Good Post

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:51 pm
by BigheadTodd
Don't forget, BYU beat VMI.

Re: Parity discussion... Just for fun

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:00 pm
by Zamboni_Driver
Dan Wishengrad wrote:Boise State beat San Diego
San Diego beat Loyola-Marymount
Loyol-Marymount beat Florida
Florida beat UCSB
UCSB beat 'Noma
'Noma beat Colorado State
Colorado State beat UMD
UMD beat BYU



BYU beat VMI

SCLAX wrote:
VMI defeats Siena,
Siena tops Loyola,
Loyola beats Georgetown
Georgetown which holds the only win over Duke
Duke beat Johns Hopkins


Johns Hopkins beat Michigan...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:01 pm
by byualum
BigheadTodd wrote:Don't forget, BYU beat VMI.

VMI beat Sienna
Sienna beat Loyola
Loyola beat Georgetown
Georgetown beat Duke

West Va. vs. Boise St. in the DI championship??

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:07 pm
by SCLAX
Oh, wow. Good posts!

So now we have West Virginia over #1 (NCAA-DI) Duke!?!?
And West Virginia over #1 (MCLA-A) Michigan because Duke beat Hopkins and Hopkins beat Michigan.

I like it.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:15 pm
by benji
At least for the LSA ....

North Texas defeats Baylor
Baylor defeats Texas Tech
Texas Tech defeats North Texas

All three teams finish 4-2 in conference ... where playoff seeding had to be determined by point differential. At that, Baylor and TTU were tied, and ultimately Baylor took the playoff spot due to the head to head victory over TTU.

Although specific to the LSA, it's a bit analogous to the overall MCLA picture ... just reference some of the discussion about the last MCLA Div. 1 poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:22 pm
by CharlotteLAX16
benji wrote:At least for the LSA ....

North Texas defeats Baylor
Baylor defeats Texas Tech
Texas Tech defeats North Texas

All three teams finish 4-2 in conference ... where playoff seeding had to be determined by point differential. At that, Baylor and TTU were tied, and ultimately Baylor took the playoff spot due to the head to head victory over TTU.

Same scneario for the SELC-2...

App State beats Davidson
Davidson beats Charlotte
Charlotte beats App State

All teams finished 3-2 in regional play, Charlotte is the only one to make the SELC tourney by virtue of tie-breaker.
......

I may not have been paying that much attention, but I don't remember seeing this as much last year.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:29 pm
by nhoskins
byualum wrote:
BigheadTodd wrote:Don't forget, BYU beat VMI.

VMI beat Sienna
Sienna beat Loyola
Loyola beat Georgetown
Georgetown beat Duke

West Va. vs. Boise St. in the DI championship??


I better get going on my scouting report...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:09 pm
by NYBuilt
Doug Shanahan wrote:As the game continues to grow across the board, you will see more and more parity at all levels. Of course there still will be a few powerhouses at each level Div. 1,2,or 3 and in the MCLA, but each year I believe those programs are more likely to have upsets. Mainly because alot of great players fly under the radar or don't get recruited at all.


Or pick warm weather schools where lacrosse does not consume their entire college life...